The Declaration Of Independents

The Declaration of Independents: How Libertarian Politics Can Fix What’s Wrong with America

Discussed in this video is how Republicans are screwing the pooch with thier focus on social issues at the Federal level. Anybody remember the Terri Schiavo case?


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11 responses to “The Declaration Of Independents”

  1. Bram Avatar
    Bram

    It makes me so happy that a major news network is willing to carry these guys and Stossel even on their business channel.

    When I hear lefties complain the Fox is just a shill for the GOP, I invite them to watch those shows and hear some actual logic on TV.

  2. Bill Quick Avatar

    The thing about the Schaivo case is that both sides were pushing a social agenda. I’m uncertain why it is okay for the Dems to do so, but not the Republicans.

  3. agimarc Avatar

    So like the Declaration’s unalienable rights of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” are screwing the pooch for you libertarians? Interesting take on liberty, guys.

    While I agree that the discussion should have taken place at the state and local level, when you wantonly kill the defenseless, Good People do less than intelligent things in response.

    Second point: The left is the aggressor in the culture wars / social issues. They are typically used as a vehicle to rile up the democrat base. Most recent example is the Obama campaign artificial War on Women stunt during the 2012 campaign. Sadly, it worked as it turned out young, single women to break strongly for Obama and the democrats – all based on a lie.

    The view from the right is that when you get continually slapped in the face, eventually you end up responding in some manner.

    These discussions all belong at the state and local levels, and the best conservative response is to move them there sooner rather than later.

    National politics then would properly reflect what is going on at the state and local levels. Cheers –

  4. Simon Avatar

    agmarc,

    Wantonly kill the defenseless? It was adjudicated in Fla. and the state approved. Now if her relatives or insurance were paying to keep her alive your point may have had some merit. If the state is paying…

    Medicine is NOT absolutely scientific. Judgment calls have to be made. The people closest are in the best position to decide.

    It was not a Federal matter.

    As to “life, liberty, …” The Constitution is the implementing document. And the power that allows Congress to intervene is – your sentiment? OK. The the Democrats can use the same rationale. Enjoy.

  5. Simon Avatar

    War On Women?

    A couple of Republicans in 2012 helped that along greatly. The Ds couldn’t have made that stick without considerable Republican help. Republicans were happy to oblige.

    BTW if you don’t like losing on culture war issues (how is the Drug War working for you?) keep them off the table – and emphasize why. “The Federal Government doesn’t have the power…”.

    You might want to look at sentiment on abortion. Americans are generally opposed it is true. But it is also true that they generally don’t want government involved.

    Catholic rules on the matter shouldn’t control Jews.

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    Abortion is mostly leftists killing their own. For which they will go to hell. What is the downside? – M. Simon

    Letter To A Friend

    The Jewish Position On Abortion

    The Jews And Partial Birth Abortion

    What Is A Fetus Worth?

    Vagina Police

    The Penalty For Abortion Should Be

  6. Simon Avatar

    “Every power you give the government to do good will eventually be used by the government to do evil.”

  7. captain*arizona Avatar
    captain*arizona

    Libertarians cannot fix themselves how can they fix anything else! Untill they get a social conscience they will be relegated to the political dumpster! Get a social conscience and you will have a chance in the political arena!

  8. Simon Avatar

    CrapAz,

    Liberals fix themselves all the time. It is why abortion is so popular among their ranks. Keep it up.

    I have a social conscience. It is just that I prefer expressing it with my own money. The left prefers expressing it with other people’s money.

    You may not have noticed but your style of politics is being repudiated. By Democrats.

    http://classicalvalues.com/2013/12/budget-deal-tactics/

  9. Simon Avatar

    Bill,

    Here is why pushing a social agenda is bad:

    rossj503

    The thing is that I have friends that are on all sides of the spectrum politically. I am a fairly conservative person. The GOP has caught themselves in a trap of using social issues to bolster their numbers. If Republicans would get out of the social issue morality game, more and more people would align themselves with Republicans. But that seems really difficult for them to do.

    http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/03/18725854-college-republicans-latest-to-issue-warnings-for-partys-future

  10. captain*arizona Avatar
    captain*arizona

    Simon this was tried in the great depression and it didn’t work! When people like you said I am sorry we don’t have enough money to feed the starving and government shouldn’t help! The communists said lets shoot! Fdr and liberals said lets let government fill the void so the communist don’t shoot people like simon!

  11. Simon Avatar

    CrapAZ,

    Your problem is that big government leads to oligarchs.

    Bread and circuses is a tried and true tactic for keeping the masses quiet. Until you run out of OPM.

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    Why were the unions in Chicago so against plastic pipe? It reduced hours worked. That the ban drove up the cost of housing (especially hard on the poor) was of no concern to them.

    I’m against Socialism – of the leftist variety (economic) and of the Rightist variety (moral).