I’ve had it with Drudge and his shameless habit of linking Alex Jones’s Infowars site. His latest link is to a “story” which argues that the Navy SEALS did not kill Osama bin Laden. Obviously, Drudge and his ilk are hoping that many conservatives will be willing to go along with this conspiracy theory simply out of hatred of Obama. If they are that stupid, may God pity them.
This is too much for me.
If it turns out to be true, I will apologize.
If OTOH, it does not, that slimebag Drudge never apologize. He will just go on linking his trash as usual.
MORE: A number of conservatives have criticized Drudge for years for his Infowars linking, but many have been silent. I have generally tried to ignore it, but this crap is on the level of linking a story claiming the moon landing was faked. Enough is enough.
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14 responses to “F*ck Drudge and his yellow trash”
An interesting post worth some reflection.
Consider, Drudge is a source site for quickly over-viewing a range of information and thoughts. A wide smorgasbord of thoughts and info not easily available elsewhere. The reader is able to digest for themselves. What you propose is filtering the information available for reflection, ie. a form of censorship to fit your beliefs. Again, an interesting post.
Censorship? Far from calling for censorship, I’m scolding Drudge for being a dishonest weasel. If the government tried to censor him — even for this — I would be outraged, and I would be adamantly on his side.
It’s really a question of credibility. I do not visit conspiracy theory sites, 9/11 skeptics, moon-landing skeptics, or Holocaust Denial sites, and I don’t trust those who promote outlandish conspiracy theories. That’s a far cry from advocating censorship.
This post has me perplexed. I get your point in the rant that you think Alex Jones unworthy of attention. But the article is a report on Seymour Hirsch’s interview with the Guardian. Does Hirsch not have standing for serious consideration?
Hersh has been shown to rely on faked documents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh
While I would treat anything he says with skepticism, in this case, he has nothing.
From the Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-obama-nsa-american-media
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Don’t even get him started on the New York Times which, he says, spends “so much more time carrying water for Obama than I ever thought they would” – or the death of Osama bin Laden. “Nothing’s been done about that story, it’s one big lie, not one word of it is true,” he says of the dramatic US Navy Seals raid in 2011.
Hersh is writing a book about national security and has devoted a chapter to the bin Laden killing. He says a recent report put out by an “independent” Pakistani commission about life in the Abottabad compound in which Bin Laden was holed up would not stand up to scrutiny. “The Pakistanis put out a report, don’t get me going on it. Let’s put it this way, it was done with considerable American input. It’s a bullshit report,” he says hinting of revelations to come in his book.
***END QUOTE***
It’s just his word, with zero proof.
But that’s good enough for a Drudge headline.
That helps. But, if I recall correctly, there were (are)
disputed versions (WH vs Seal Team), and maybe others regarding what the facts are. And, of course, it’s clear, at least to me, that the WH is perfectly willing to work at adjusting facts as necessary to improve their image in negative situations.
What I am taking issue with here are not Hersh’s claims, or disputes about the facts between the White House and the SEALs. Had Drudge simply linked the Guardian story, I would not have written this post. However, If you read the Infowars post, it is clearly pushing the conspiracy claim — “supported” with links to Infowars and PrisonPlanet — that bin Laden was dead and the raid was an elaborate hoax. Worse, Infowars makes it look like Hersh is supporting such claims. To link such a “story” is beyond irresponsible. Calling Drudge yellow for doing so is probably understatement on my part.
I think Alex Jones is closer to the truth than anyone in mainstream life. Sure a lot of it is blatant speculation and shi-t-disturbing, but it is all part of stirring the pot. Why not let others do their thing and be content to do your thing your way?
You know why Jones and Drudge do what they do? It is all part of making crystal clear that we do not believe a single word or syllable they ever say. We are saying, in effect, that we will believe in Santa Claus before we believe what they say about anything. And I agree with that sentiment.
Alex Jones creates conspiracy stories out of whole cloth. That is to say Alex Jones and Inforwars lies about stories so as to pretend there is a conspiracu where none exist. Alex Jones is exactly like the UFO hoaxers that buys/build small flying saucers, stages photos, and then claims they have seen UFOs which must mean Area 51 is where the govt reverse-engineers alien spacecraft. No matter how many times or how blatantly they get caught faking stories the Alex Jones fans claim this event is simply a one-off honest mistake and there is no pattern of deceit.
The Alex Jones fans come from the fringes of Arayan Brotherhood/White Nationalism, Conspiracy-Media Complex, and societal drop-outs and losers. Back before Hal Turner was jailed and stopped broadcasting there was a well-worn path of stories from White Nationalism to Hal Turner to Alex Jones and then into kooky conspiracy radio slums of mainstream media.
The true believers in the Alex Jones audience are simply the drop-outs that purposefully avoid the stories that document Alex Jones faking stories. What I would ask them is how many stories does Alex Jones need to fake before it’s justifiable to call him a faker? Infowars scrubs its site of stories once they have been debunked. Alex Jones throws stories down the memory-whole when he is caught faking stories but his fans pretend Alex Jones is closer to the truth than other sources. They prove that the conspiracy minded conclude conspiracies are true, not because of any evidence, but to satisfy their feeling of being dominated by powerful forces which explains why they are seen as losers in society. Conspiracy theories are entirely about the believer’s psychology, not events. As soon as one is debunked, the conspiracy kooks simply finds another. Never once will the kooks doubt.
Here are 2 of the stories Alex Jones and Infowars have been caught faking and then thrown the stories away, often to return in another version until the new version is debunked.
1) the source of the photos sent to AJ/Infowars photos showing a foreign soldier, might have been Russian, standing next to a automobile and s Stop sign, with foreign letters. The source of the photos indicated the photo was taken near Ft. Dix New Jersey at a fake town created for training purposes. The FBI uses Hoganville in Virginia for their purposes.
Anyway, the source indicated the photo showed soldier of former Soviet state Republic of Georgia receiving training in preperation for future Military Police use along with or support of NATO troops. RepofGeorgia was being groomed/trying to move toward US/NATO and distance themselves from Russia.
AJ/Inforwars reported the photos as Russian troops manning a UN/New World Order checkpoint and concentration camp that was already operating inside the United States, location not ID-ed. The story was on Infowars for years back in the late 1990s until it was debunked by the person that took and supplied the photos to Alex Jones. It was during the pre-Y2K hoax period when AJ was faking numerous stories about black helicopters and UN/NWO camps around the US.
2) the second story has been published numerous times, with only the names locations changed, but following the same pattern. I call it the “stockpiling coffins story”. It usually shows up just after widespread flooding. The last one I remember was either in Missouri or SouthEast US. The story begins with a truck drivers claiming he’s been delivering vast numbers of coffins to the region and Alex Jones supplies the hysteria that this indicates THEY are days away from beginning mass executions of citizens, thus the need for coffins. It’s a hoax. The “coffins” are not coffins and THEY aren’t about to start murdering anyone. But AJ never lets anything get between him a conspiracy and the frightened ninnies that listen to his show.
If Alex Jones claimed the sun would rise tomorrow, I wouldn’t believe it until it was confirmed by others. AJ routinely creates hoaxes, demands offocials disprove his created hoax, and claims the officials’ ignoring of the hoax is proof the hoax is real. The only difference between Alex Jones and his audience of mental patients is that Alex Jones knows he is lying. His audience, like cult members, know if they start to doubt their leader their worldview comes tumbling down, along with their reason for living. So his audience will dismiss any number of AJ-created hoaxes to preserve their trust in AJ.
Another of Alex Jones hoaxes is “reinterpreting” abandoned industrial sites as NWO/FEMA camps. Some yokel drives out to an abandoned building, surrounded by chainlink fencing to keep out squatters, scrap metal thieves, etc. and sends the video/pics to Alex Jones claiming this is where FEMA will operate their concentration camp. “This is the loading dock where FEMA will ship out all of the corpses.” Or it was the loading dock where XYZ Inc once shipped and received freight when they were still making stuff.
Every Podunk town in the country at one time either had some sort of industrial park or built an industrial park to try and forestall impending economic collapse. There are more abandoned industrial sites around this country than Starbucks. But because AJ’s audience doesn’t leave the house they believe AJ when he shows them a building inside a fence and calls it a FEMA camp.
I agree with your general point that Drudge should not link AJ/Infowars material. In this case he could have linked directly to the Guardian article.
I too have some problems with Hersh over the years but he is at least mainstream and widely accepted.
Drudge seems to have been getting worse with his headlines in the past year or two in terms of sensationalizing.
For example, right now he is running one that says:
Police Department Acquires Military Tank…
Yet when you look at the article, it is nothing of the sort. The vehicle is an armored HumV. It might be considered an armored scout car but it is not a tank (wheeled, not tracked, no gun turret etc)
The story is bad enough, the militarization of police in the US is scaring the bejabbers out of me.
Why does he need to do this?
John Henry
My personal opinion is that Drudge has some sort of corrupt deal going with InfoWars.
That, or he thinks he’s the digital version of the National Enquirer.
Money is probably the best explanation.
“The truth” is difficult to understand because of heisenbergs principal of uncertanty “those who observe something change it by looking at it.” As nietzche said when you look into the abyss the abyss looks into you! The dialectic is still the best way to try and find what is called truth. Or as jamie diamond said on his first bankster job interveiw when asked what is two plus two? “What do you need it to be?”