Ross Perot

Until tonight I had not had particularly strong feelings about Donald Trump. I thought he was a joke. But I’ve been (stupidly, I guess) watching the Republican candidate debate tonight, and I just saw him threaten to run a Third Party campaign.

So now I say FUCK DONALD TRUMP.

I think he might as well be Hillary’s stalking horse.

(And what an ugly, pinched, bitter, almost evil face he has…)

AFTERTHOUGHT: The man seems to know he will never be president, and it is obvious he never will be. If any of his opponents win, he has nothing to gain.

It’s hard to blame him for helping Hillary, and it may be in his economic interest.

BOTTOM LINE: While I think Marco Rubio is the most articulate and attractive candidate, he is too boyish looking in a way that detracts from his gravitas. Which is why I think Jeb Bush (much as I dislike his candidacy) is the winner of tonight’s debate.

Dynastic politics sucks.

But that’s what is happening. It’s the reality of a country in decline.

Bush Clinton Trump.

Great.

(Hey, maybe I’ll be wrong. Nothing would make me happier!)

While my two favorite candidates from both parties are Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul (because both oppose the War on Drugs), I do live in the real world, and were I asked to be a chess player/king maker of the smoke-filled room variety I would have to say the best GOP strategy against Hillary would be a Rubio-Fiorina ticket.


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13 responses to “Ross Perot”

  1. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    The Republican Party establishment has only itself to blame for the emergence of Trump. He is expressing the disgust all of us feel for a party that lacks integrity. It plays games with its conservative base for years expecting them to fall in line come election day, and then afterwords betrays them completely. How long did they expect this to continue?

    I know he is disingenuous. So what? The plain talk without political correctness or nuance lays it out cold. They, the great bulk of GOP politicians, are nothing more than cheap liars on the take. If they are not parsing a response so as to be on both sides down the road, they are outright lying to our faces. End Obamacare, pass Keystone, end amnesty, stop the Iranian treaty, yes, they promise to take a stand but in reality they are making deals in the dark to insure these monstrosities survive – just so long as their fingerprints aren’t on the finished deal. What cowards and knaves. What two-faced hustlers. Oh, they’ll take a stand alright, if it puts pot heads in jail or builds another gulag or funds a security apparatus to spy on our every phone call or email.

    The Republican Party has long since given up its status as a defender of freedom. Trump is exactly what it deserves.

  2. Man Mountain Molehill Avatar
    Man Mountain Molehill

    Anybody else like Walker / Fiorina?

    I think Trump is vulgarian scum. But I like the way he’s rubbing everyone else’s face in a serious issue, possibly the most serious. (If we’re overrun with illegals there’s not much point to any of the other policy arguments) I hope he finds a way to keep up the dog-and-combover clown show without running, either as a Republican and especially not as a turd party.

  3. captain*arizona Avatar
    captain*arizona

    Mrs. Clinton our next president. A little ditty: Bill you kiss the asians and blacks and I will kiss the mexicans and jews and we will win the white house as often as we choose! There will be 5,000,000 more minority american citizen kids will have turned 18 since the 2012 election for president and 1,000,000 angry old white conservatives will have died off.

  4. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    You know I love you Eric. But how did that “working within the party establishment thing” work out for you? And what exactly does the Republican Party stand for? If it’s opposition to the statism of Obama and the left, just how have they implemented any fucking opposition to any fucking effect? Huh? They control both houses of congress, a majority of state houses, and might as well not exist for all they have accomplished.

    Obamacare is killing the medical profession and when fully implemented will end private medicine in this country. It was meant to do that. It should have been a line in the sand for the Republican Party. Instead they have played along and will somehow “make it work” at least to the extent that donors from medical insurance companies line their coffers. Both of our fathers are turning over in their graves.

    And then you have them doubling down on the war on drugs, Christie and his ilk being prime examples. What a clown show we have. Huggie bear Christie and Jeb Bush, both of whom might as well bend over in public and let us see how they enjoy it. Or maybe we can get a tag team going when Huckabee chooses Miss Lindsey as his VP. Now there would be an odd couple if there ever was one. Or the petulant boys, Paul and Kasich, each trying to outdo the other for pettiness. Or Cruz the wannabe neocon who’s pumped Jewish donors for millions and fancies himself the reincarnation of Marcus Tullius Cicero. Just what we need, another Harvard Law graduate, one born in Canada to follow the one born in Kenya.

    The only one of the candidates worth a damn is a woman, Carly Fiorina. Articulate, smart, self-made, and with the balls lacking all of the men, and totally inexperienced for the job.

    Juxtaposed against this crew of lightweights is Donald Trump, the fly in the ointment, the jokester from hell sent to expose the shallowness, duplicity, and hypocrisy. So this is what we’ve got, a pantheon of midgets when we need a single giant. God help us.

  5. Eric Scheie Avatar

    Frank, all I want at this point is to stop Hillary from being president.

    Rather than waste my vote in the GOP primary, I’m thinking that to get the best bang for my buck, I should vote in the Democrat primary for Bernie Sanders. (I’d rather have him as president than HRC, and he is one of the few candidates to oppose the WoD.)

  6. Simon Avatar

    Frank,

    Except for treating injuries the medical profession is extinct and doesn’t know it.

    Assayed herbal remedies will be the norm.

    Cannabinoids can affect bone growth. And that is just one of thousands of effects.

    So I wouldn’t lament the doctors.

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    We are in fact at an inflection point. A lot of the dead weight we are carrying will have to be shed.

    Medicine is due for a total revision.

    The oil market has been permanently disrupted. I need to write about that.

  7. Simon Avatar

    Eric,

    The purpose of Donald Trump is to get Hillary elected.

    I’m betting the Republicans “piss him off” and he goes third Party as planned.

  8. Man Mountain Molehill Avatar
    Man Mountain Molehill

    I’ve read rumors connecting Perot to the Clintons, so it’s very plausible that Trump is playing the same game. Article on Front Page, for one, can’t remember the author.

    Sanders strikes me as a genuine old leftist. He’s not concerned with the latest sjw fads, and he’s not trying to present like a centrist, like Hilarity!. That has a certain appeal, I’ve always had a grudging respect for the older Trotskyite types. Their analysis of what the problems and issues are is usually good, it’s their solutions that are totally verkakte.

    Anything but Bushilary.

    Might almost be entertaining, in a trainwreck kind of way, if Trump really wins. I imagine about six months in he realizes just how difficult the job is, and how unprepared he is, how simultaneously boring it all is, the world’s leaders don’t respond to bluster about how rich he is, and we get a Jesse “the failure” Ventura-class meltdown.

    Another thing about Trump; I’ve always suspected that his real busine$$ $ecret i$ $houting at people about how rich he i$ until they believe him.

    To recycle an old joke from 1994:

    Hillary’s a witch! She turned the speaker into a Newt!

    (and he didn’t get much better) Where is Newt this time around, anyway?

  9. Simon Avatar

    MMM,

    Newt is more or less for the legalization of drugs. They are a medical problem not a law enforcement problem.

    Back around the mid ’90s he was calling for death for two oz of pot.

  10. Man Mountain Molehill Avatar
    Man Mountain Molehill

    Newty’s been all over the place on this one. Jerry Pournelle asked Newt why it took a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol, but congress can ban marijuana just through legislation; Newt’s only answer is it’s different. Sequitur meet non, non meet Sequitur.

    He’s damaged goods, past his sell-by date, as a candidate, but why isn’t he all over TV as a squawking head?

  11. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Vote Bernie Sanders as the lesser of two evils? I can see that. He’s to Obama what Kerensky was to Lenin.

  12. Man Mountain Molehill Avatar
    Man Mountain Molehill

    Sanders is good on the 2nd amendment. From what I’ve heard he gives good soundbite. I don’t get the impression he hates America, unlike a lot of Democrats, and, most importantly, he doesn’t dismiss questions with a derisive cackle. We could do a lot worse.

    Interesting factoid about Vermont, I think it’s the only state which fully allows concealed carry, no permit needed.

    Kerensky, Norman Thomas, something in that quadrant.

  13. Man Mountain Molehill Avatar
    Man Mountain Molehill

    To fill in a bit about Trump’s business methods, (I’m not claiming this scenario has any reality, but).

    Someone you don’t know well, but have certainly heard of, wants to do a *deal*. He picks you up in a limo, wearing a $3000 suit and takes you to lunch in a private room at a trendy midtown restaurant. Now, should you be impressed that he’s so wealthy he throws it around like water, or does it mean he’s conning you, he just spent his last $4500 on the suit, limo and lunch just to reel you in?