Why are so many people (left and right) obsessed with such a question?
It should not matter to sane people.
But for reasons that still escape me after many years of blogging, it absolutely does.
Being gay — a choice or not?
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Why are so many people (left and right) obsessed with such a question?
It should not matter to sane people.
But for reasons that still escape me after many years of blogging, it absolutely does.
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10 responses to “Being gay — a choice or not?”
If you ask most gay people if it is a choice they will look at you funny and say if I had a choice do you think I would choose this? It is the bisexuals who may have a choice. The religious zealots want it to be a choice so they don’t feel so guilty when they stone them. By the way my screenplay about the illegal alien children is up at my web site: the alamoisavenged.com If you get a chance tell me what you think.
I’m actually agreeing with Captain on this one – but perhaps from the other side. If it’s not a choice (and I don’t think it is – hetero wasn’t a choice for me – I got crushes on boys long before puberty but girls never interested me), then “God made me this way, so shut up.”
I never really understood why it matters either – I’ve never understood why gays/lesbians are disliked by heterosexuals at all? It doesn’t affect me at all if Joe falls in love with George, or Sally falls in love with Jane. It’s not my business.
Even if I got a crush on Joe or George and got no response, it’s exactly the same result I’d get if they were in love with Sally and Jane.
I am old enough to remember when people thought that being left handed was a choice, and a sick, sinful choice. Teachers used to punish children for writing with their left hand by whacking them with a ruler.
I consider myself a religious zealot. That being said, I think we must all be careful to distinguish between a predisposition and actions. The question of whether a person is born gay is irrelevant. If I were to agree that one is born one way or the other then I was born straight. However I chose not to have sex with my wife before marriage and continue to choose to be faithful in our relationship. My actions are a choice, completely separate of my biology. All choice have consequences. Living a promiscuous lifestyle increases your chances of negative health risks. Living a promiscuous gay male lifestyle is even a greater risk. These are the consequences of choices, not being born gay straight or otherwise. It’s not hateful or bigoted to say, each person has a choice to act on their biology, they are not a slave to it. In fact, to say they ARE a slave of their biology IS bigotry.
Ewiggins, I assume from your comment that you think marital relations between two married men or two married women is totally acceptable?
Just as a side note, in an era where gay folk could not marry and long term gay relationships were sanctioned as inappropriate, promiscuous, anonymous sex was probably the best they could do.
If churches would encourage gay youth to date in the same manner they encourage straight youth, then perhaps over time the alleged ‘gay’ lifestyle might disappear.
Junesxing:
My point above was that choices are not linked to your biology, even if Gay is inborn.
That being said, I don’t think government should be involved in marriage one way or another. No civil unions, no contacts, not recognition, benefits, tax incentives, no nothing.
Marriage should be recognition by religious or private agreement. Gay/straight or other should not be a concern of our government.
My issue is when people say “Because I was born gay, I have no choice but to stick my junk in that guys pooper. Now give me a marriage license, pay for my partners health care and pay a big fine if you won’t make me a wedding cake to celebrate, wooohoo”
Now you’ve taking your choices and made it my responsibility to pay for it.
It’s not, as far as I know, really a matter of where you stick what. And I think that may be part of the problem with the “dialogue” – everyone is talking about mechanics when the real issue is who someone can love? Or is it JUST sex? I don’t think so – not from the long-term gay couples I’ve known.
I assure you that I have never even gotten a minor crush on a woman (though there are some I admire). I suspect the same is true of gay men.
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Indeed it does!
If it is a conscious choice, then one could be persuaded to have homosexual sex.
Now, think of the parents of the person who could be persuaded. Their biggest investment in their lives is in raising their child. The payoff is continuity of their DNA through grandchildren.
Someone who diverts your child from normal reproductive heterosexual life is now a serious threat to one’s investment in future generations.
Gays – do what you gotta do, just don’t try to pervert my children. Better you go back to your closet. We straights promise not to bother you there, except for infectous disease prevention important to public health.
I can never understand the obsession with other people’s sex lives.
The only person’s whose sex life I care about (besides my own) are the folks I’m fooling around with or trying to fool around with.
What consenting adults do to each other is none of my business whatsoever.