It Is an Armed Doctrine

From the comments at Samizdata.

Paul Marks
August 29, 2014 at 7:51 pm

The Islamists are what Edmund Burke called an “armed doctrine” – they make no secret of the fact that (like the Jacobins and Nazis and Marxists) they seek to spread their system by force – all around the world.

Peace is not an option – because the enemy exists and the the peace they are interested in is complete submission.

One can debate tactics (for example I was AGAINST intervention in Iraq in 2003), but a Rothbardian denial of the existence of the enemy (a pretence that it is all a “neocon plot” or whatever) is insanity.

Commenter Frank left a link to Bill Quick who had a link to Angelo Codevilla.

The Islamic State’ video-dissemination of one of its goons beheading an American is an existential challenge from which we cannot afford to shrink. Until the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL/IS) did that, it made sense for the U.S. government to help contain it because the Islamic world, which the IS threatens most directly, must destroy it sooner or later. But internetting that beheading was a gory declaration of America’s impotence—a dare-by-deed that is sure to move countless young persons around the globe to get in on killing us, anywhere they can. The longer the Islamic State survives, the more will take up its dare. Either we kill the IS, or we will deserve the wave of terrorism that will engulf us.

Killing the IS requires neither more nor less than waging war—not as the former administration waged its “war on terror,” nor by the current administration’s pinpricks, nor according to the too-clever-by-half stratagems taught in today’s politically correct military war colleges, but rather by war in the dictionary meaning of the word. To make war is to kill the spirit as well as the body of the enemy, so terribly as to make sure that it will not rise again, and that nobody will want to imitate it.

That requires first isolating the Islamic State politically and physically to deprive all within it of the capacity to make war, and even to eat. Then it requires killing all who bear arms and all who are near them.

Sadly I do not think Americans have the stomach for it. At least not yet. It means wiping out the Wahabis, the Salafis, the Muslim Brotherhood, all their kindred spirits and anyone who supports them. We must not be like the Israelis who are far too kind to their enemies.


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6 responses to “It Is an Armed Doctrine”

  1. bob sykes Avatar
    bob sykes

    The safe bet is to bet on an ISIS victory and the successful establishment of a caliphate in the Middle East.

  2. Bob Smith Avatar
    Bob Smith

    “the Islamic world, which the IS threatens most directly, must destroy it sooner or later.”

    How ignorant. The Islamic world will see ISIS as their best chance for Allah’s promise of global domination and join them, not destroy them.

  3. Simon Avatar

    Bob Smith,

    Well it gets interesting:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-king-warns-isis-jihadists-will-target-the-west-2014-8

    King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia has warned that the West will be the next target of the jihadists sweeping through Syria and Iraq, unless there is “rapid” action.

    “If we ignore them, I am sure they will reach Europe in a month and America in another month,” he said in remarks quoted on Saturday by Asharq al-Awsat daily and Saudi-backed Al-Arabiya television station.

    “Terrorism knows no border and its danger could affect several countries outside the Middle East,” said the king who was speaking at a welcoming ceremony on Friday for new ambassadors, including a new envoy from Saudi ally the United States.
    ====

    Huff Po – You Can’t Understand ISIS If You Don’t Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia

  4. Neil Avatar
    Neil

    I do not think that Americans will go to war again very quickly. An occasional bomb or a shoot-em-up at the mall will not send the Army back to Iraq.

    It will take an attack that demonstrates the potential to destroy the economy, to shake Americans out of their neo-isolationism. The attack on the World Trade Center provoked such a reaction because it was reasonable to envision both the practical end of air transport and the eventual employment of state-level weapons against the U.S.

    I think we will not be budged by anything less than the ACTUAL use of state-level weapons and delivery systems against the continental U.S.

  5. captain arizona Avatar
    captain arizona

    When are you going to get your gun and head for mosul? Oh! Thats right you would rather send some kid who couldn’t find a real job and had to join the army to feed his family to do your fighting for you.