Published on Nov 29, 2013
0:00:00 Being in TX (CA vs TX)
0:13:05 How did America’s Greatest generation spawn its worst ?
0:44:00 Trolls in general
0:56:10 If you could bring only one person from the left over to the right, who would it be ? (Jon Stewart)
1:03:30 Nuclear option in the Senate, “It’s A Power Grab”
1:16:45 Odds of a nuclear exchange in the middle east
1:20:05 What do you think of ‘Dune’ ? Pinto vs Mercedes, Why I’m a Hawk, :You Gotta Mow The Grass”
1:34:55 Update on Aurora
1:35:22 Hunger Games
1:35:59 Have you noticed sci-fi writers bringing conservative/libertarian viewpoints to their stories? Star Trek / Star Wars / Lord of the Rings / Nobility / “This Day We Fight”
2:02:00 Closing comments?
Some comments I left:
Greatest Generation? They helped re-elect FDR and got us well under way to the socialist path we are on today. OK. They lived through the Depression (exacerbated by FDR) and fought WW2. But they had a few glaring defects. Those defects spawned the New Left of the late 60s. Greatest Generation? You might wish to re-evaluate.
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I was watching after the first plane hit. My wife had called me in to the kitchen to watch because “This is unusual.” I saw the second plane heading for the towers. A few seconds before it hit I said: “This means war.” I had no illusions.
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You are right about the 50s bland. I knew a guy who fought on Guadalcanal. His hands were still white with jungle rot. But I think the kids had PTSD too. Especially from ‘Nam. That explains the drugs. BTW the 60s started in ’66 in California. The pop culture stood for a spirituality that scared the pants off mainline religions. The search for a spirituality was endemic because of the focus on materialism. I had 4 kids. All libertarians. My kids are disciplined. Out of necessity. We had very little material to give.
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Being poor gives you advantages money can’t buy.
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Bad choices willingly? We have some eating away at our culture and they energize the left. Drug Prohibition. Drugs are bad m’kay? But prohibition is worse because Prohibition is a subsidy for criminals. Now why “conservatives” want to subsidize criminals is beyond me. But there you have it. And it is done willingly. Or out of fear. And from this fear they grow what they fear most. Standard psychology. Try telling a prohibitionist about endocannabinoids and they will tell you it is a ruse. Despite tens of thousands of NIH cites. What do you call some one who can’t learn? Zombies. Walking dead. And no one has a compunction about killing the walking dead. And that is why “conservatives” lose. The left uses their evil against them. Both inhabit the dark side. Both willingly. We are doomed.
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-The “Greatest Generation” came home from the war and built the modern world. Television and FM radio,
(where would ya’ll hippies be without FM rock?) transistors, rockets (both space and ICBMs) and so on.
-The 50s were a lot more interesting than people like to pretend they were. Bebop, beat poetry, rockabilly, lots of intense cultural ferment compared to bland hippie mulch from the 60s.
-Unfocused, rootless spirituality is an intellectual cul de sac end and leads to destructive ends such as Manson and Jonestown. (is that a cult de sac?)
How many hippies claimed they were into Zen Buddhism and wound up following the worst types of dishonest sleazebag gurus such as the Maharishi whatshis name. Makes about as much sense as asstrology and all that newage crapola. As G.K. Chesterton said, once people stop believing in god they’ll believe anything. (personally, as a life-long atheist I’m not in complete agreement with this, but…) The hippies’ quest for what they though was spirituality was just one more way they autolobotomized themselves.
I’d call them the stupidest generation except the slackers are worse.
50s: Esquerita
60s: Cretinous bongwater Revival
MMM,
I wouldn’t be so hard on the hippies. They helped give us the computer revolution. I know. I was there. It started with Resource One in the Bay Area. In a way a precursor to the internet. Same for personal computers.
“The Final Encyclopedia” brought to life.
As to spiritual quests. At least there was one. And yes many fell for charlatans. I personally “fell” for Aleister Crowley. His methods changed my life. But there are always quacks in that realm. The Christian sects (and even the Catholic Church) are not immune.
Look at how many churches oppose using a certain plant as medicine despite our ever greater knowledge of the endocannabinoid system. What are they afraid of? The competition.
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I cleared out a bar in San Francisco one Saturday night by filling the juke box full of quarters and selecting Creedence songs. Everyone left, they had to unplug it to shut it up.
I can’t make up my mind if Crowley was a fake, believed his own bullshit, started a religion to recruit fudgepots or was onto something or something in between. Check out Jack Parsons, rocket scientist (for realsies) Crowley disciple and all-around weirdo.
The problem with spiritual quests is that there are no spirits, spooks, ghosts, holy ghosts, gods, devils, witches or anything else in that vein. There are various beneficial neurochemical effects that can be achieved by meditational disciplines. Putting them on a rational, scientific basis would be a Desirable goal. And I’m all in favor of endocannibinoids. In fact, as a modified libertarian potion, I’m in favor of fully legalizing cannabis and opioids, and strictly regulating antibiotics.
The hard work of the computer revolution was a lot of button-down types slaving over a hot slide rule making the hardware actually perform.
I used to work in a building in Berkeley that was on the same corner as Saul Zaentz Productions and the warehouse where Creedence used to rehearse. One of my
cow orkers was an old hippie from Oakland who went to Berkeley in the 60s and had stories about drinking with Janice, smoking pot with Alan Watts at his place in Sausalito and hanging out with Creedence at that warehouse.
MMM,
Crowley was a British intel agent. One of their favorite methods was setting up “cults” as recruiting tools. Sex and drugs being on offer.
I was associated with this group in Chicago:
http://occultchicago.blogspot.com/2012/05/sabaean-religious-order.html
http://sabaea.blogspot.com/2009/06/sabaea-ancient-modern-philosophy.html
Very heavy into Crowley. And the guy running it had a light Brit accent. I think his job was to ensnare people. He was quite good at it. Couldn’t catch me though. But he did give it his best shot. He could definitely cause tremors in The Force.
Crowley – real or BS? Interesting question. His methods work. And he led you where ever you wanted to go – The Dark or The Light.
My adepts stand upright; their head above the heavens, their feet below the hells.
What you run into in his followers is about 50% total flakes and 50% who have understanding from deep to very deep. I only met one other person whose understanding was as deep as mine. A member of the above Temple. Kathy G. who has since reverted to Catholicism.
Me? I’m currently a follower of an ancient religion from a galaxy far, far, away.
Not sure if my religion is Jed or Moe Howardism. I’ve heard of the Crowley/Brit intelligence connection, no idea how deep it was.
What I’ve been wondering about is the possible connection between Gurdjieff, Korzybski and Russian Masonic Lodges.
I thought I read that Jack Parsons had something to do with OSS but I can’t find it. And I’m pretty sure Parsons knew Heinlein, they were in the same circles at about the same time.