Are they real Muslims? Are they real Americans?

Commenting on the sickening reports that the Kenyan mall hostages were cruelly tortured, Glenn Reynolds made a simple observation:

if this kind of thing keeps happening, people are going to start thinking less of Islam.

I can easily imagine that Glenn will be attacked for saying that by Media Matters and the various leftists who apologize for savages who hate civilization. Correct me if I am wrong! Seriously, I hope they don’t apologize for savages who hate civilization, but it often seems to me that they do.

Anyway, much as I never wanted to hear about — much less read about — the fringe group behind these atrocities, reading the reports made me feel obligated to catch up on the responsible Al Qaeda offshoot Al-Shabaab. (Not “terrorist” but “militant,” if that’s somehow reassuring.)

Incredibly, there are Americans involved. As perps. I read earlier that five of the terrorist-torturers were Americans from Minnesota, and just from perusing the Wiki page on Al-Shabaab I see two of my fellow citizens who were drawn to this bloodthirsty outfit: Daniel Maldonado and Omar Shafik Hammami (aka Abu Mansoor Al-Amriki).

Like most Americans, I like to hope that these people do not represent Islam, but I can understand why some people might. They seem to talk the talk, and they seem to walk the walk.

Are they real Muslims? Are they real Americans?

Can anyone tell me what real is?


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3 responses to “Are they real Muslims? Are they real Americans?”

  1. Stan Avatar
    Stan

    Of course they represent Islam. And they represent America. No true Scotsman and all that.

    That being said, not all Americans are terrorists.

  2. bob sykes Avatar
    bob sykes

    They represent mainstream Islam, which is an evil ideology of extreme intolerance, extreme violence, extreme aggression, extreme misogyny and extreme homophobia. Islam has served as an excuse for violent criminal activity for over 1400 years. Mohammed was a bandit, and his followers continue his crimes.

    A rational, just society would suppress Islam within its borders and deport known Muslims.

  3. Veeshir Avatar

    No one group “represents” Islam or America.

    Different people believe different things in different ways.
    Just like the current crop of annoying atheists/agnostics don’t represent me.

    I do have a problem with people who aren’t Muslim telling me what Islam is all about.
    That annoys me every time.

    I always try to avoid motivations, I pay attention to actions.
    If you claim you’re trying to kill me over Islam, I figure you just want to try to kill me and have figured out a ‘good’ reason to do so.