Chris Dorner Is Not Insane

I’m reading his manifesto (supposedly uncensored version here) and you know what? The police he describes in LA are the LA police I’m familiar with from a time long ago. And from my study of the Rampart scandal.

The convicted offenses include unprovoked shootings, unprovoked beatings, planting of false evidence, framing of suspects, stealing and dealing narcotics, bank robbery, perjury, and the covering up of evidence of these activities.[1]

He is turning into a folk hero. Payback for all the injustices suffered at the hands of the LAPD and other rogue police departments across the nation.

Let me also say this: I am thankful that the police in Rockford, Illinois, seem to me from my interactions with them, way more professional. We do try to dodge the revenue officers when driving. Who doesn’t? In that vein Bill Quick pens this thought.

I can’t think of anybody who looks forward to any interaction with the police whatsoever.

I think he has a point.

So what is the genesis of the vast majority of police misconduct? The Drug War. It is not just fighting drugs. It is the mindset it engenders. Any tactic is permissible even wide spread and well known perjury to get at the criminals. Once integrity is lost. All is lost.

Update: 12 Feb 2013 0223z

An analysis of the two versions of the manifesto. I found it very interesting. Esp the bit on gun control.


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10 responses to “Chris Dorner Is Not Insane”

  1. Andrew_M_Garland Avatar

    Never Talk to the Police

    Talking is dangerous because there are so many laws that you break every day. You are usually protected by invisibility. The police need to see “probable cause” to examine you further. You are clearly visible when you consent to a search or you are answering questions, so watch out.

    Prof. Duane explains in these videos why he is proud of the 5th Amendment, and will never, ever talk to the police without a lawyer. You shouldn’t either. Don’t take his word for it; he cites the advice of Nuremberg Trial Chief Prosecutor Robert Jackson, and the U.S. Supreme Court. Prof. Duane is animated and interesting. This lecture is an eye-opener.

    What is worse than living in a police state? Not knowing the extent that you are living in one now.

  2. Cosmic Drunk Avatar
    Cosmic Drunk

    Chris Dorner is *insane*. He killed the children of people on his hate list.

    He might have a *point* in his manifesto. That’s different. But he most definitely IS insane.

  3. Bram Avatar
    Bram

    Chris Dorner is a really bad, possibly crazy guy.

    Some of the positive reaction to Dorner shows how bad things are. How fed up people are with the militarized police state, bureaucracy that intrudes into every aspect of our lives, the endless recession, our false politicians, and lying media.

    There is something nasty building out there that our “leaders” don’t want to acknowledge.

  4. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Bram, you are very right about something nasty building out there. When DHS buys millions (or is it billions) of rounds of ammo with a fear of domestic terrorism, and the general public cleans out every gun store in the country, something bad is definitely building.

  5. Neil Avatar
    Neil

    If you leave aside his written statements and just look at Dorner’s actions, the thing that stands out is the fact that his first targets included the children of his defense counsel, whom he apparently believes to have thrown his case.

    We can all understand lashing out at people who have wronged us (although it is abnormal to do so with such extreme violence), but to visit the sins of the fathers on the sons… That’s something that our society does not condone even in the most extreme circumstances.

    Even if he’d done nothing else, that alone puts him beyond the pale.

  6. Bobnormal Avatar
    Bobnormal

    Got married, had kids, became conservative, and pro LEO. 15 years later the San Bernardino ADA Railroads my Son and Attempted to have ME testify AGAINST him, that didn’t fly but they got My Boy into the system,beat up my friends, Shot Jimmy G’s Dog, I say FUCK the PIGS, all of them, just like Muslims, there are no”good” cops left, only Civil War, and it’s coming
    Bob

  7. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Neil,

    Chris Dorner is not in the law enforcement mode. He is at war. What does killing those children do? It enlarges the perimeter that has to be defended.

    You might want to look at the depredations of our first civil war. 1776. It was nothing like the white washed versions I had grown up with.

  8. Neil Avatar
    Neil

    Sherman was at war when he marched across Georgia to prove a point.

    This guy imagined himself at war. But a strategic genius he wasn’t–got hisself burned up in a cabin after only a week. John Brown thought himself at war, too, but he was just a butcher.

    We can only pray that Dorner is not as much a harbinger as Brown was.

  9. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    That is the trouble. I think Dorner is a harbinger.