Iran Sending Warships To US Coast

We do live in Interesting Times. Iran will be sending warships to the US coast.

Iran’s navy will send ships into the Atlantic Ocean, state-run Islamic Republic News Agency reported Tuesday. The vessels will sail out of the Persian Gulf and toward the U.S. East Coast as retaliation for American ships in the Persian Gulf.

“The Navy of the Iranian Army will have a powerful presence near the United States borders,” the paper stated.

“[As] the world arrogant power is present near our marine borders, we, with the help of our sailors who follow the concept of the supreme jurisprudence, shall also establish a powerful presence near the marine borders of the United States,” said Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari.

Well isn’t that special. The Iranian Army has its own Navy.

The Pentagon has responded:

“We’ve been pushing freedom of the seas for years and the Iranian navy can go wherever it wants,” said Pentagon Spokesman Capt. John Kirby.

Iranian warships within flying distance of the US coast? Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Thanks for helping Iran.


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31 responses to “Iran Sending Warships To US Coast”

  1. Bobnormal Avatar

    Row well and live 41, first thing I thought, how long does it take to row here from Iran?

  2. Mark L Avatar
    Mark L

    Well, the Chinese Navy is officially the People’s Liberation Army Navy, so Iran is not the only nation that has an army that owns a navy. For that matter, the US Army has ships in its Transportation Corps. (Or maybe had ships. They did in WWII.)

    But it reminds me of the German habit of naming their warships after Army generals — Blucher, Scharnhorst, Gneisenau. Never ended well. (Come to think of it Graf Spee and Tirpitz didn’t end well, either.)

  3. John S. Avatar
    John S.

    I’m sure there are a lot of Navy personnel who would like nothing better than to tangle with the Iranian Navy, were it not for the inevitable fallout (so to speak).

  4. Douglas Avatar
    Douglas

    There was a lot of snark on some of the sites about it. Like “Iran promises to donate 8 new artificial reefs to US East Coast.”

    “How do you sink an Iranian warship? Put it in water.”

    Some of it was really good.

  5. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Iran and her front groups are infiltrating in South and Central America. The Obama administration appears oblivious to it. If one didn’t know better it’s almost as if they want to bring war closer to home.
    It makes perfect sense they would also ignore Iranian war ships off our east coast.

    I feel so much safer now that Alwaki and Bin Laden are dead, and we are on the brink of collapsing Pakistan, while not a finger is raised nor barely a harsh word spoken about Iran’s client state and ally Syria, the Venesuelan Army is being trained by Iran with arms shipments and talk of nuclear energy transfers, Turkey getting cozy with Iran and now threatening Israel and Cypress.

    Is the bastard openly inviting this, or is he part of it?

  6. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Frank,

    He is in thrall to the Ron Paul libertarians.

    WW2 suppressed that strain of stupidity. Now they are all dead or doddering. Evidently we need a new lesson.

  7. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Connect the dots:

    Iran is the entity behind Hezbollah.

    http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/html/iran_hezbollah_e1b.htm

    Iran wages proxy war on Israel through Hamas.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3512014.ece

    Hezbollah hooks up with Mexican Drug Cartels.

    http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-07-14/politics/30060540_1_islamic-militants-hezbollah-cartels

    Hezbollah and Hamas in Venezuela.

    http://www.hudson-ny.org/1878/venezuelan-minister-hezbollah

    Obama seeks friendship with Iran.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/28/barack-obama-letter-to-iran

    Obama humiliates Netanyahu.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/28/barack-obama-letter-to-iran

    Obama silent on atrocities in Syria.

    http://www.frumforum.com/obama-stays-silent-on-syria

    Murder in the streets of Syria – Obama silent, which continues today.

    http://www.verumserum.com/?p=24226

    Obama silent on the Green Revolution in Iran as Ahmadinejad’s thugs butcher women in the streets.

    http://www.verumserum.com/?p=24226

    Later Obama is concerned with possible loss of life in Egypt, and speaks out in support of “freedom seekers” there. (You know, those Coptic Church burning, would-be rapists of women journalists, Muslim Brotherhood freedom fighters.)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Zkd-KGmFM

    Ahmadinejad was among the early revolutionaries in Iran, if not one of the students who kidnapped our embassy people, he nevertheless was appointed mayor of Tehran, and then rose to be become dictator. He is the Iranian equivalent of our student radicals of the 60’s come to power with an agenda of revenge.

    The getting-even mindset is one with Barrack Obama via the Rev. Wright. Birds of a feather.

    That is the connection.

  8. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Which got me to thinking. Maybe the Drug War is being ended in order to cripple Iran and the Afghanis and the rest of that crew.

  9. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    I know the evidence you’ve submitted, but officially nothing has happened. When Obama speaks out, then possibly.

    I have a darker view, which comes from days back in the 60’s on the periphery, sitting cross legged on the floor at the radical college profs, passing joints at midnight, until only a few us are left, and he goes insane with hatred at the napalm burning children, and vows if it takes until he’s a crippled old man, the country club biddies and their henchmen, the corporate overseers, etc. will pay.

    It is the same righteous anger preached by the Rev. Wright each Sunday for 20 years.

  10. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    And BTW, Shanah Tovah

  11. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    And a Mazel Tov to you Frank.

    =======

    I have an article coming up about serving police officers and judges coming out against Prohibition. This is rather unusual because so far it has only been retired officers who dared to speak out.

    My spidey sense tells me that even our covert operators have decided it is worth more to them to give it up than to keep it going. And you know they have a LOT of off books money coming in from that route. Ollie North has been an anti-prohibitionist for a while now for gosh sakes.

    I expect the President to say something in a while – a few weeks to a few months. Zero Hour is tomorrow at 7 pm ET.

    Already the volume of announcements for the Ken Burns movie is picking up. Google says 373,000 in the last day.

    Of course the Right is showing minimal interest. Fools.

  12. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    A little factoid for you: 20% of Iranians are heroin users vs under 2% in the US.

  13. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    This is typical:

    http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2011/09/advocates_hope_ken_burns_prohibition_docu_provokes.php

    “My two sons have struggled with addiction,” said Gretchen Burns Bergman, lead organizer of Moms United to End the War on Drugs. “My family has experienced not only the devastation of this life-threatening disease, but also the destructive effects of punitive prohibitionist policies and incarceration.

    “Mothers were instrumental in ending alcohol prohibition in the ’30s, not because they wanted to encourage alcohol use, but because they wanted to end the gangland violence and loss of lives caused by organized crime, fueled by prohibition,” Bergman said. “Moms are needed to join the movement to end the violence, mass incarceration and overdose deaths that have resulted from prohibition and the failed war on drugs.”

    =====

    They are gearing up for Oct 5th (when the series will be over) and the discussion will rage.

    The left has had about a month to prepare. The Right believes they are in the cat bird seat and need do nothing.

    You can’t say I didn’t try to warn them.

  14. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    As if more proof is needed, here is the latest example of the Obama administration alliance with radical muslims. We’ve been secretly making cozy with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. From a drudge article linked today:

    The diplomat said the U.S. contacts had been with “high-level” members of the Brotherhood’s party but did not give names.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/02/us-egypt-usa-brotherhood-idUSTRE7910J420111002

    Going back 10 years to 2001 the Brotherhood has been the leading force for Muslim fundamentalism in Egypt. Here is a quote about the “Queen of the Nile” gay houseboat arrests from that time, showing the influence and direction of the Brotherhood:

    Ali Asali, one of the founders of GayEgypt.com, believes that the current crackdown on the Egyptian gay community stems from the growing power of Islamic fundamentalism in Egypt. “The political motives behind the current clampdown go back to the student riots at Al Azhar University in May 2000 against the supposedly blasphemous book Banquet for Seaweed. This confrontation, followed with successes by the Muslim Brotherhood in subsequent elections, scared the government,” said Asali in an e-mail interview.

    http://tampabaycoalition.homestead.com/files/0817EgyptAmnesty.htm

    Was Obama complicit is overthrowing the Mubarak regime? You can go back and read numerous posts from zerohedge.com that link our governments money printing to worldwide food inflation which had a direct bearing on the riots that brought down the Egyptian and Tunisian governments. Add in the fact that Obama threw Mubarak under the bus at the first sign of trouble, and now admission of secret contacts with the Brotherhood, and the picture is pretty clear.

    The evidence against Obama is mounting.

  15. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Frank,

    Some zerohedge stuff is nuts.

    Printing money lowers the price of exports.

    What has happened is that the value of Egyptian currency went down faster. Assuming that Mubarak controlled the Egyptian money machine – he did himself in.

  16. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    M. Simon,

    I believe the thesis was that as we devalued our currency by purchasing government bonds to cover the budget deficit, the price of commodities skyrocketed, which included food. Also, our subsidies for ethanol caused corn prices to go up, which in turn raised beef and poultry prices. I’ve been made aware of commodity price increases through my own business. You take a country like Egypt where 40-50% of basic living costs is food, of which grain imports account for the most, and the street riots appear partly related to that. Here’s the corn chart from Barron’s:

    http://www.chartsrus.com/chart1.php?image=http://www.sharelynx.com/chartstemp/free/chartind1CRUvoi.php?ticker=FUTC

  17. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Printing money makes exports cheaper and imports more expensive. It is called devaluation.

    I don’t disagree about the rise of prices. But that is supply/demand and input costs driven.

    Currency devaluation in so far as inputs are local drives down prices externally. If fuel costs are the driver of the delta in price then their brothers in OPEC did them in.

  18. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    I don’t disagree about the rise of prices. But that is supply/demand and input costs driven.

    No. In most cases that would be true, but not with the run up in commodities in the past 3 years, during what would otherwise be called a deflationary depression. A safe haven is what was sought, in commodities like gold, silver, oil, and grains. It may be proved to be short lived, but that was what caused the price spikes, that and speculation.

    There is a direct correlation between the fact that the Fed has not signaled another round of quantitative easing and the collapse of gold and grain prices in the past few months.

  19. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Also, my main point wasn’t about commodity prices themselves, but the coincidence of high grain prices and their effects on poor middle eastern countries like Tunisia and Egypt which import so much of their food. The zerohedge articles highlighted how we export inflation because these commodities are priced in dollars worldwide. We cover our asses at home through 45,000,000 people on food stamps. Egypt was too poor to do that, and they didn’t have the oil money like Saudi Arabia to hand out by the billions to their own people.

  20. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Frank,

    What I have seen is that the Chinese are eating better driving up food prices. Supply and demand. Also ethanol.

    You don’t use a perishable as a safe haven unless prices are going up by the hour.

    You are correct about the results. China has the same problem re: food imports. But they are riding high for now.

    Here are a few links for you (and lurkers) on China’s problems:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/china-prepares-bail-out-europe-who-preparing-bail-out-china

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/china-cds-soars-continued-hard-landing-concerns

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/china-prepares-bail-out-europe-who-preparing-bail-out-china

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/here-comes-china-hard-landing-full-bank-america-presentation-slides

    That should give you some key words for further research.

  21. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Ah. A safe have for those who can “trade” on the Chicago Merc.

    I get it.

  22. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    If the aim of the Obama administration was to support our allies, and in the case of Egypt an ally who was at least officially neutral toward Israel, then we would have supported Mubarak. We didn’t.

    Discounting any intentional effort to increase commodity prices, when grain prices doubled and an ally like Egypt was put in a bind, did we try to help? What about food for peace and all the other rescue venues available?

    It appears we sat by and watched. It was at best an example of achieving a desired end result through inaction, a case of not letting a crisis, a crisis at least partly generated in this country, go to waste.

    On the other hand, what we are doing in Pakistan now amounts to overt sabotage of that government.

    I’ll lay it out as I see it:

    Obama has taken sides in the Muslim world.

    His hostile intentions toward Pakistan have been known since 2006 when he was a senator. They are now being acted out with drones, withholding military and financial support, in actions that would amount to a war declaration under most circumstances, and against a nominal ally armed with nuclear weapons.

    Contrast that with Obama’s total inaction and silence about Iranian support of Hezbollah, their infiltration into this hemisphere, their smuggling of arms and explosives into Iraq, their oppressive internal totalitarian jack-booted clamp down on dissent, and their hellbent stampede toward nuclear weapons and missiles.

    Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the other Sunni Muslim countries are not a huge military threat to this country.

    Iran has the potential, and religious and philosophical drive, to cause massive destruction here. They are being helped in their effort by Russia.

    I fear that all their talk about destroying Israel is misdirection. Their aim, as preposterous as it may sound, is the destruction of this country, even if that means their own suicide.

    M. Simon, because you were on the left during the 60’s, you were too close to see the psychology that drives some of them. They are the true believers who think that only the total annihilation of this country will achieve the justice they seek. They don’t want to remake it into any kind of paradise. They want it to go to hell. Forty years ago when I toyed with Trotsky and Marx, confronting that nihilism is what drove me away.

  23. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Frank,

    I know how they think. I wasn’t just on the left. I was a communist.

    BTW Pakistan no longer has nuclear weapons. The US is “guarding” them from terrorists.

    I don’t think the left/Obama can destroy the US. But they may come close. We will pull out of this mess. Rather quickly if Palin gets in.

  24. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Thanks for the Spengler link. Interesting, but does not change my mind about what is posted just above.

  25. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    For me it was the nihilism in action: “the boat people”.

  26. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MG12Ak03.html

    and this:

    The hunger to come in Egypt

    The collapse of Egypt’s credit standing, meanwhile, has shut down trade financing for food imports, according to the chairman of the country’s Food Industry Holding Company, Dr Ahmed al-Rakaibi, chairman of the Holding Company for Food Industries. Rakaibi warned of “an acute shortage in the production of food commodities manufactured locally, as well as a decline in imports of many goods, especially poultry, meats and oils”. According to the country’s statistics agency, only a month’s supply of rice is on hand, and four months’ supply of wheat.

  27. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    BTW the nihilists have won in Egypt. I think that is why there is talk of marching through Sinai. To get rid of the excess population.

    =====

    From http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MI20Ak01.html again.

    The Napoleonic Wars alone killed 188,000 British men, in a population of less than 9 million, the equivalent of 6.3 million in today’s American population. An additional 225,000 were transported as criminals to America (60,000) and Australia (165,000), not counting perhaps 1 million voluntary emigrants during the 19th century from England, Wales and Scotland.

    Altogether, the attrition rate of the English and Welsh population at the turn of the 18th century amounted to 15%. Scotland must be considered separately, because the English deliberately cleared the Highlands of people after the 1746 Stuart rebellion. About half a million Highlanders were displaced, almost a third of the Scots population. Whole villages were transported to North America.

    While conditions of life improved for British workers, machine-spun cotton destroyed more than a quarter of India’s cotton manufacturing industry, and by 1860 had displaced more than half a million workers, leading to starvation in Bengal, the historic center of India’s cotton weaving.

    The last time a vast improvement in industrial productivity upended the lives of millions of people around the world, a large proportion of the affected populations did not survive, at least not in their own homes, and many not at all.

  28. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    I don’t agree with everything in this article from 1997, and he especially has the Kurdish situation via Turkey very wrong, but he had foresight about Iran’s long term intentions:

    http://www.peikoff.com/essays_and_articles/iraq-the-wrong-war/

    And this is the 10th anniversary to the day, Oct. 2nd, of this article. He zeroed in on the right country, and unfortunately predicted exactly what would happen if we didn’t end it then.

    http://www.peikoff.com/essays_and_articles/end-states-who-sponsor-terrorism/

    (I would NOT, however, reference anything of his in the past few years. We all get old and feeble if we live long enough. Just one of God’s many little curses.)

  29. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Frank,

    He got the interim right. I think he misses the end game. Now. Iran is on the way to collapse (20% of the population uses heroin). Egypt is a dead man walking.

    In another 6 months to a year starvation will be a big fact in the ME and there will be very little interest in doing anything. And there is not much that can be done anyway. One country? Maybe. 10 or 20? Say 200 million at risk out of a population of say 500 million? The logistics alone are daunting. Out of the question.

  30. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    The fall in commodity prices may mean that all the hot money has move to cooler climes.