Guns And The Drug War

With Project Gunwalker so much in the news these days it is rather surprising to me that the 2nd Amendment Community is not up in arms (heh) about the Drug War. The biggest threat to gun ownership (at least according to those who initiated the Gunwalker Project) is the Drug War. And yet the silence from the gun rights community is deafening.

Here is a bit Posted by Ann Barnhardt – June 17, AD 2011 9:54 AM MST where the author tiptoes around the issue.

Gunwalker never, ever had ANYTHING to do with drug enforcement or stopping the cartels. NOTHING. The reason that the Obama regime, which we all know is a treasonous Marxist-totalitarian enemy force, executed the Gunwalker program was to create optics (lots of dead Mexican civilians, dead Mexican law enforcement, dead Mexican military and dead Americans) that they could then use to justify the elimination of the Second Amendment via the U.N., specifically the Small Arms Treaty. ATF insiders have reported that the Obama regime was “giddy” that Mexicans were being killed by Gunwalker firearms. This is because these people are Marxists, and as I have said here repeatedly, Marxists lie and murder human beings as policy. Marxists believe that human life has no intrinsic value and that human beings are object pawns that can be used and exterminated without compunction in order to further their own goals and increase their own power. In this case, the goal is to disarm the people of the United States so that the Marxist-Obamaist regime can seize totalitarian, dictatorial power, overthrow the Constitution, and establish a global power matrix. This disarmament will be achieved (or so they think) by using the meme of American omni-culpability. In other words, everything is OUR FAULT.

“See? These Mexicans are dead because of weapons sourced in the U.S. If it weren’t for the U.S. and the Second Amendment, none of this would have happened.”

Yeah, except the Obama regime specifically handed the weapons in question to the Mexican cartels, and then explicitly FORBADE the ATF agents from interdicting them.

Implicitly she recognizes the threat. Explicitly? Not a fookin word.

Why? I suppose it is because beating up dopers is such a popular sport in America. And why not? Currently Jews are out of season.

Cross Posted at Power and Control


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12 responses to “Guns And The Drug War”

  1. Sigivald Avatar
    Sigivald

    As a “community” the 2A people aren’t, indeed.

    This is for the same reason the NRA isn’t – they’re definitionally a “community” based on a single issue, which is not that.

    They’re also not all about, as a group, all sorts of other Constitutional and rights issues – because those issues are not what defines them as a community.

    Various individuals in said “community” have spoken out against the Drug War at various levels and in various ways – some of them quite vocally and consistently, as befits the fact that some of them are general civil-libertarians.

    (Eg. Says Uncle, and Sebastian at Snowflakes in Hell.)

    (Also, who the hell is this Barnhardt person? I follow a lot of gun bloggers and thus the online 2A “community”, and I’ve never even heard of her.

    A quick peek shows me she’s not what I’d call 2A “community” – she’s just someone who occasionally talks about it. Which is fine, but I wouldn’t use the term to refer to people whose primary focus isn’t the Second Amendment.)

  2. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    Sigival,

    So I guess if the Feds were using housing law to take away gun rights the gun groups would say nothing?

    What about protecting the flanks?

    BTW I discuss this with gun rights bloggers all the time. What do I get (mostly) :

    “I’m against the drug war, but I haven’t blogged it.”

    So yeah. It would be nice to see gun rights bloggers out in force on the issue given the current scandal. Where are they?

  3. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    I just did a Google on “gun rights drug war”.

    The top article is from 2005 and my recent article is #6 on the list. Not exactly an outpouring of sentiment.

  4. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    BTW I checked the sites you linked. No explicit connection between the War On Guns and the War On Drugs is made.

    I usually write one or two a year on the subject. And I’m not even a gun nut.

  5. Sigivald Avatar
    Sigivald

    I wasn’t suggesting they made an explicit connection – I was saying the commented on and decried the drug war, which I thought was your point, though I see I misinterpreted.

    The idea that the biggest threat to gun ownership is the drug war is not addressed because it’s not true, frankly – which is probably why I didn’t pick up that it was your thesis.

    The biggest threat has been and is the “liberal” culture that sees gun ownership as not only not a right, but as an evil.

    The Drug War as a tool in that is minor and unimportant.

    As to seeing the “community” out in force about Gunwalker… they are, aren’t they?

    I see 2A activist gun bloggers talk about it all the time – indeed, they’ve been pushing for investigations all year; they’re just focusing on “The ATF deliberately broke the law to push for gun control” not “The Drug War is what makes the Cartels want guns”.

    Because, I think quite rightly, it sure seems like “the ATF broke the law and deliberately pushed for already-illegal gun sales to try and get more gun control laws” is more pertinent and important than the particular background of why those illegal buyers wanted the guns.)

    The history of gun control activism and legislation in the US is more tangentially than directly related to the Drug War.

    After the National Firearms Act, which I think we can lay significantly at the feet of Prohibition, the First War On Drugs, we see the Gun Control Act of 1968 – which was a reaction not to drug hysteria, but to JFK’s assassination and Charles Whitman.

    The Hughes Amendment to the Firearm Ownership Protection Act didn’t pretend to be anything but a “ban them ’cause we can”.

    The Assault Weapons Ban was, if recollection serves, a bit of “’cause we can” and a bit of “those Gangsta Rappers talk about AKs and TEC-9s, so they must be a real problem” – tangential, at best, relation to Drugs.

    Pushes for gun control in the mid-90s seemed all aimed at hysteria based on either school shootings or the Evil Militia Movement – not drugs.

    This is why the 2A people don’t see the drug war as a primary component of gun control pushes – because the people pushing for gun control/bans/grabs don’t see it that way either, and it’s … just tangential.

    (Likewise, why I talked about “the online 2A community” and asked “who the hell is this person?” – because I thought you were talking about that community, as self-selected, and using her as a pseudo-representative of it.

    Pointing at her tiptoeing around the issue is irrelevant to that “community” because she doesn’t seem to even be part of it, from my perspective.)

  6. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    The Drug War as a tool in that is minor and unimportant.

    Sure. Until you look at the history of alcohol prohibition and what it did to gun rights.

    The good strategist is aware of tactics and sets up his offense/defense accordingly.

    Evidently gun owners are not interested in protecting their flanks. Fine. That is my job.

  7. mst Avatar
    mst

    Part of the answer may be that, when your enemies are digging themselves a shallow grave, let ’em dig. This Admin. would like nothing more than to have “Gun Nuts” blithering about concealed carry so they can get you to look elsewhere. “pay no attention to the idiots behind the curtain…”

  8. Keith_Indy Avatar

    The NRA making a deal with Harry Ried on some bill that curtailed others free speech, was the last straw for many 2nd Amendment activists.

    Not all 2A activists are single issue. I’ve got a host of opinions about a number of issues, but only so much time, money, and energy to devote to anything in particular.

    Lately it’s all been devoted to the homestead and getting the garden up and running. Next up is resto-rodding a 55 Ford. Next year my ears might pick up for the 2012 primaries, and elections. I hope Lugar looses his primary.

  9. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    Prediction: Pot related gun crime in California is going to crash. As the number of scripts has increased & with so many now having backyard gardens, the price has gone down from $3500 p/lb 2 years ago, to $1500 now, if you can get it. The legal dispensaries are buying 2 ounces at a time and paying a little more, but are having a hard time competing with the little mom and pop operations who are “giving it away.”

  10. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    The only 2nd Amendment organization that gets the Drug War right at this time is the JPFO.

    http://www.jpfo.org/