"There is a major change occurring within conservative thought."

That's what one advocate says about an idea floated by Michael Savage (a man I can't stand) to impose a 20% tariff on all Chinese goods:

In his book that just came out today, "Trickle Up Poverty," Conservative talk show host Michael Savage has proposed a tariff on Chinese goods in order to restore America's manufacturing sector, specifically:

20 percent tariffs on all China made goods immediately; rising by 5 percent each year for each year China refuses to revalue their currency.

Savage calls his collection of proposals his "Manifesto for Saving America." There is a major change occurring within conservative thought.

That's just the kind of "conservative" change we need. A Freeper calls it the Smoot-Hawley-Savage Tariff:
One of Savage's proposals is to raise tariffs on China. Maybe he can call it Smoot-Hawley-Savage .

That's been tried already. When we raise tariffs on other countries, they raise tariffs against us. You can forget any exports if you raise tariffs like that.

Imposing protective taxes on Chinese goods (along with Savage's related proposal to tax all foreign automobiles, including those made here) is anything but conservative, if we assume conservatism means economic freedom and free markets. And if history is any guide, protective tariffs are just about the worst thing that could be done to the economy right now.

But that goes to the merits of what he says about one subject. There is more to Savage than merely bad ideas.

It's not so much that he says things that irritate me so much as the way he says things. I would hate hearing him say something I agreed with, for the guy's voice just plain grates on my nerves, and gives me the creeps, and has since I first heard him at the young and impressionable age of 41.

At 56 I might not be young, but I'm still impressionable. Or maybe it's just that whatever the process is that causes grating things to grate on the nerves worsens with age. Grating things seem to grate more than they used to, and not only was Savage one of more grating things I have endured, he seems to have gotten even more grating. So while I'm less tolerant, he's also less tolerant -- which makes him less tolerable for me. And life is too short.

Perhaps I should ignore him in the hope that he will just go away, but I have long suspected the man was a Democratic or leftist plant of some sort, and he has been caught giving money to Democrats.

But I'm not sure that this proves he is necessarily part of some grand conspiracy to confuse and destroy the right. He might simply be doing what he does for the money. He has a personality that is unique in its ability to simultaneously enliven and stimulate his "choir," while nauseating those who aren't in the choir. Interestingly, the latter group includes people who might agree with him on the issues:

Something about Savage has always rubbed me wrong. I share his outrage at the immigration disaster, and several other issues, but I just get the willies when I listen to him.
I always thought it was no accident that he started in San Francisco. I first heard him when I was disgusted with the Clintons and leaning towards the right, and I have to say that he would have given me pause, but I was smart enough not to take the bait. I believe he has kept many a leftist on the left, especially those who are not capable of suspending their emotions long enough to realize that he does not speak for everyone on the right, much less conservatism, and disliking him should not translate into disliking the right (any more than disliking Keith Olbermann should translate into disliking the left, much as we who are to the right of Olbermann might hope it will). I think Savage could use a lesson in civility from Ann Coulter, but I should be careful what I wish for.

As to why his book with its tariff advocacy is being released now in October (on the heels of an election), that might just be another coincidence.

After all, no genuine conservatives would support protective tariffs, would they?

It's the sort of thing that might encourage divisions.

MORE: It occurred to me that the call for protectionism may be Savage's way of attacking Glenn Beck (who advocates free trade, especially with China), and I learned that Savage has ridiculed Beck's eye problems:

Michael Savage attacks Glenn Beck; calls him the 'hemorrhoid with eyes', crazy, and a fraud (among other things) after Glenn announces he may be going blind.

He also predicts 'something is about to happen' to Glenn that will conveniently increase his ratings.

I was surprised to see what a low regard most of Freepers have for Savage. Just look at these:
"I shut that guy off a long time ago. He is mentally ill."

"... they're going to have to throw a net over him eventually."

...personally I think he's a moron."

"I don't listen to or pay any attention to Savage. I think he's a nut."

"Indefensible. If somebody at the polar opposite end of the spectrum from where I stand...Nancy Pelosi, Michael Moore, etc....announced they were going blind, they would get my prayers and sympathy as basic human decency would demand."

"Savage is nuts. He lost me with his mad rants a long time ago."

"There's only one man from whom I'll take negativity and crankiness over the airwaves, and it isn't Michael Savage. Heard him once and that was all I needed."

"I really dislike savage. [...]..he is everything the left accuses conservative talk radio of being."

"...I used to think he was an entertaining nut. However as he got more and more nasty, even when there was no need to be, I got turned off big time. Now I avoid him."

"Not a Beck fan, but Weiner Nation is the biggest imbecile of them all. "

"I think he's a fake.

He's a liberal who adopted an over-the-top populist (not really conservative, or at least not a thinking conservative) persona and is GOING crazy as a result."

"Savage hurts our cause."

"Something is wrong with Savage. I dont listen to him, ever."

Wow. I would have expected him to be more popular there.

While there is no way to prove it, Savage's call for protectionism may very well be a politically insincere ploy, calculated simply to target Beck.

If the guy is in fact the trollish provocateur I have long suspected him to be, perhaps I shouldn't be writing about him at all.

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What Savage forgets is that without low cost inputs you can't sell to the global market.

Savage has no clue that outputs = inputs.

In fact he is ignorant of Riccardo.

M. Simon   ·  October 10, 2010 03:55 PM

It is one thing to have tension between fiscal and social conservatives, but what worries me here is to see a populist wedge driven right into free market conservatism -- by a demagogue who claims to support the fiscally conservative, free market Tea Party movement.

Do they have to fuck with economic conservatism too?

Or is this just Savage's typically contrived way of trying to mess with Glenn Beck?

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/233/41366/

Eric Scheie   ·  October 10, 2010 04:40 PM

I actually enjoy him & find him more interesting than most on talk radio. Some of his ideas are out there, but some are on the mark. He has a breadth of knowledge that's rare on talk radio, hence his derision of "Rush Bimbo" & Hannity (the Wallbanger, a elitist slur referring to Hannity's days as a construction worker) & O'Reilly (the Leprechaun). He despises Coulter, & accurately described Levin's radio voice as "Groucho Marx's grandmother after a hysterectomy"

jeff   ·  October 10, 2010 06:32 PM

Jeff, welcome back! I have missed Beautiful Atrocities, and I'm so delighted to see you stop by that I won't even disagree with what you said! (Nor will I ask how much Savage paid you to say it...)

Eric Scheie   ·  October 10, 2010 06:42 PM

Savage is a horrible, bitter kvetch if you ask me. He's either a troll or psychologically disturbed, or most likely both. Nothing he says should be taken as indicative of conservative thought generally.

Can he go half an hour without referring to his PhD from Berkeley? I'm not impressed.

@Jeff: Do you really think his derision at his competitors is due to his great breadth of knowledge, rather than that they're, you know, his competition?

DJ   ·  October 10, 2010 07:31 PM

Would you consider Jerry Pournelle a populist, or a closet liberal?

Would you be interested to know that he's consistently advocated tariffs for a number of years now?

Does this make any difference in your public position? (I doubt it {g})

Casey   ·  October 17, 2010 11:42 PM

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