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April 19, 2010
Guilt by association, without guilt or association
While I normally don't like to write posts about something that is already under discussion in a previous post, I think I should make an exception in light of more recent comments to my post about a sloppily-reported story alleging that "STRAIGHT PRIDE" stickers and T-shirts were being sold by an "Official Tea Party Sponsor." To back up, I attended a Tea Party in Lansing, Michigan. I was there for over three hours, and I later found myself surprised to later read accounts circulating the Internet which implied that the Tea Partiers were a bunch of homophobes. These multiple accusations were almost all based on a report by one Todd Heywood (writing in the Michigan Messenger) that a "Tea Party sponsor" had been selling "STRAIGHT PRIDE" stickers and T-shirts. I was there, I never saw any such merchandise, and I said so in my post. Among other things, I said this: ...why is there no photograph showing the vendor wearing this button? If this is supposed to be such a big story -- and it certainly is being parroted as such by the left -- then why not do the basic documentation?My post drew the attention of the Editor of the Michigan Messenger, Ed Brayton, who emailed me and pointed out quite courteously that they stood behind the story. Eric, you know I'm a big fan of your blog. You may not know that I am the editor of the Michigan Messenger. I can assure you that the shirts were being sold there. We do, in fact, have a picture of the guy who sold the shirts with his "official sponsor" button on. We didn't put it in the story because I never imagined anyone would actually challenge the mere fact that they were being sold (I certainly expected people to disagree with whether it matters). You may not have seen the shirts, but they were there. We have many more pictures of it, and the audio of the interview with the person selling them. I'd be happy to send it to you and you can hear for yourself what he says and why, much to my frustration, we could not make out the first word in the name of his company. Todd Heywood is an excellent reporter who would never make up such a thing, and I certainly would not allow it on the site if we were not 100% certain about it.Mr. Brayton supplied a picture of the man who Todd Heywood claimed was the vendor selling the items. However, the picture does not show any of his merchandise; it only shows a man wearing a "Tea Party Sponsor" button. There was also an audio recording (said to be with the man in the picture), but that made absolutely no reference to the "STRAIGHT PRIDE" merchandise. This eventually drew the attention of commenter "Xhristopherus" who says he is the man in the picture, but who says he was not selling "STRAIGHT PRIDE" T-shirts and never has. (At that or any other Tea Party.) As he is now demanding a retraction from reporter Todd Heywood and Editor Ed Brayton, I thought another post was in order. The comment Xhristopherus left last night can speak for itself: I am no graduate of the Columbia School of Journalism, but what I remember from working on my high school paper is that we ask the five W'sBy any reasonable standard, it is unfair to allege that the man in the picture was selling something he was not selling. If what the commenter is saying is true, he does deserve an apology for being dragged into this. (And while I never accused him of anything, if my posting the picture is doing harm to his reputation in any way, I would gladly take it down.) I also call on Ed Brayton, If he is indeed the editor of the Michigan Messenger as he claimed above, to Immediately remove the story and live up to his word of not allowing something on the site that is not 100% accurate.I've already made my thoughts clear on the merits of the silly "STRAIGHT PRIDE" meme, but that was not the point of my earlier post, and I don't think it requires further discussion, because there has been no connection made between that and either the Tea Party Express organization or the Tea Party movement in general. I like the way Xhristopherus puts it, though: I am a libertarian who supports equal rights for everyone, including gays, and also including their right to call their relationships whatever they choose and have that relationship respected legally by the state, medical facilities, schools etc.In this country, individuals are free to express themselves in whatever way they want, and mock whatever they want. Precisely why I wore the Che Guevara satire T-shirt the other day. Now, I happen to think that was appropriate attire for a Tea Party, but I wore it -- and mocked Che Guevara -- as an individual, and I would never presume to be speaking for a movement. Similarly, I have seen anti-abortion T-shirts at the Tea Parties, but I don't think they are speaking for the Tea Party movement as a whole. Any more than would "END THE DRUG WAR" or "BAN BSL" T-shirts. And if I wore or sold them at Tea Party rallies, so what? FWIW, I have seen two 911 conspiracy T-shirts at the Tea Parties -- which is two more than the number of "STRAIGHT PRIDE" T-shirts I have seen. Should I conclude that Tea Partiers are more likely to be into 911 Trutherism than heterosexual identity politics? As I said in an email to a friend, this tactic of smearing people because somebody put something on a table at a public event at which they were present (or over which they are said to have had control) is getting out of hand. I've never been comfortable with the whole idea of guilt by association. But bad enough as that is, here it has been done without proof of either guilt or association. posted by Eric on 04.19.10 at 12:58 PM
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Here's his first comment: http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/2010/04/if_theyre_going.html ***QUOTE*** I am a capitalist, I sell gay pride flags to gays at a huge gay pride rally in Atlanta, and I sell straight pride t-shirts at gun shows, if I thought the gay pride shirts would sell at tea parties, I would offer them. ***END QUOTE*** And this: ***QUOTE*** Here is the funny thing. I am the man in the picture above. I was NOT selling those Tshirts, but the vendor next to me was, since the uproar, I have decided to carry that merchandise. ***END QUOTE*** My reading of that was that he had never sold them at Tea Parties, but now he would. Then, in a later comment, he said that he hasn't sold any:
I have, to date not sold a single "Straight Pride" Tshirt at a tea party rally. ***END QUOTE*** He can speak for himself, but I think he made it quite clear that up to and including the Lansing event, he had neither sold any, nor offered any for sale. Eric Scheie · April 19, 2010 04:57 PM Fair Enough, I guess it's the Black helicopters outside, Good Day Sir, Bobnormal · April 19, 2010 05:03 PM Just to bring the story up to date and correct my earlier post. I should have written "I would sell" them at gun shows, not "I sell them at gun shows". I had never carried that merchandise. However, the story by Mr Heywood perturbed me to the point that I bought the vendor's left over supplies of those shirts (After TPX III concluded on April 15). and did end up selling them in Miami this past weekend at our second annual "Gay Pride" event. I sold all of them within 2 short hours I hear there were as many as 60,000 people here for the event) The people buying them were overwhelmingly gay men who wanted to buy a gag gift for their straight friends so they don't feel left out of the pride thing. Funny, the gay men I sold those t shirts to seem to have had a healthy sense of humor about it, and were not offended in the least, the self same thing that people in Michigan get their panties in a bunch about. I have news for self righteous people like Todd Heywood, pssst. the first amendment protects other people too....not just reporters with agendas to pursue. If more gay activist journalists behaved in the same manner, the equality movement would be completely in the crapper. I will Quote Robert Green Ingersol one more time because I think he has offered the best definition of tolerance to date: “Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself.” xhristopherus · April 20, 2010 12:54 AM Post a comment
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Eric, not to mince words(but people do it all the time)But the man says he hasn't SOLD any shirts, he didn't say he wasn't trying,
"I have, to date not sold a single "Straight Pride" Tshirt at a tea party rally."
I'm just saying......
Bob