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August 01, 2009
Why no good deed goes unpunished
While I agree with Glenn Reynolds that the Obama administration's softening stance on obscenity prosecutions is a good thing, I'm enough of a worry wart that I worry about how the consequences will play out. Because of the way politics works, any action that can be perceived as softening the war on sex will be seen by some Republicans as an opportunity to advocate toughening the war on sex. Naturally, this would take the form of new calls for adding more obscenity prosectors, more obscenity prosecutions, and increased penalties for porn. (Maybe even as GOP platform positions. Ugh! I mean, I have to hold my nose and vote for those guys, you know....) It doesn't take much imagination to see the same thing happen if the Obama administration were to show any sign of loosening-up in the "Drug War." (Or, more chillingly, if the Democrats tried to do something about improper SWAT Team raids, would Republicans reflexively oppose that too?) Problem is, a move by the left triggers a countermove by the right. Why, it's almost as if the law of physics (that an action triggers an opposite reaction) applies to politics, except the problem is, we're talking about government. Complex laws and powerful bureaucracies with the power to ruin lives and put people in prison. I wish I could think of a way to suspend the application of laws of physics to politics, but I can't. At the risk of sounding pessimistic, all I can say is no wonder so many things suck. Maybe I should look on the bright side. I should probably be glad things don't suck more. At least things suck in a bipartisan manner. posted by Eric on 08.01.09 at 01:00 PM
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Wait, the Democrats are the ones who proposed and sponsored pretty much every censorship law over the past 20 years, and it's Republicans you're worried about? brian · August 2, 2009 08:10 AM It's not the Republicans I'm more worried about, but the way reactive politics works. Democrats are in general more against free speech than Republicans, which is good. A key censorship issue now before the Supreme Court involves the right to depict animal cruelty: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/washington/06bar.html?_r=1&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink It was a Republican-sponsored bill, which Clinton signed. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d106:HR01887:@@@P How it works as a slippery slope is explained here (intended to stop "crush videos" but ends up used against videos of animal fights): http://www.volokh.com/posts/1216416918.shtml http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/2007/11/post_511.html Then there's so-called "virtal kiddie porn" law -- passed by a Republican congress and signed by Clinton. (Its broad bipartisan support indicates it was a product of this reactive process. No one wants to be called "pro-kiddie porn.") BTW, I agree with Penn Jillette that it punishes thought crimes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62J15bVFX64 The Supreme Court struck it down: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/04/16/scotus.virtual.child.porn/ The ban was revived with another bill, passed unanimously and signed by Bush: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003 What worries me about this is that the crime can be committed by one person expressing his own thoughts. Of course, what is far more egregious is that many Democrats want to ban hate speech -- very clearly a thought crime -- and they would love to kill talk radio. Will they dare? Eric Scheie · August 2, 2009 11:45 AM Why no good deed goes unpunished I know that's not a question, but I can answer it anyway. What's the difference between men and dogs? People are scum. Veeshir · August 2, 2009 04:55 PM Couple of issues here: * This isn't about passing laws, this is about using those laws to put people in jail. People who make videos of adults engaging in activities of their own free will may be disgusting individuals and the stuff they are doing might be gross, painful and degrading, but as long as no one is forced to participate, watch the video etc. then no harm, no foul. When you start doing it to animals, children (there's a line there, but that's a different argument) or forcing people blah blah blah. * Democrats are marginally more willing to pass these laws. Republicans are more likely to actually want to, you know, enforce the law. Democrats will have no problems enforcing the law against their political opponents because to them it's a political issue. Republicans will enforce most of the obscenity against anyone since to them it's a moral issue.
* Throwing someone in jail for their thoughts is clearly wrong, all of us can go down dangerous thought-tracks from time to time. Expressing these thoughts in some ways, especially in safe "coping mechanisms" or as a part of therapy etc. should be protected to a degree. * But having a culture, a society means we must have lines. These lines should be bright and obvious, but they should be there. I am totally comfortable with "You shall not create images depicting sex with pre-pubescents" and "You will NOT use models/actors under the age of majority in sexually explicit film/photo material". Yes, I'm sure this infringes on some peoples right to be titillated. And no, I don't think that drawing a line *somewhere* means that that line can be arbitrarily whipped around all over the place. [1] There are significant problems with current "child porn" laws. Almost all hetro men are stimulated by pictures of post-polymorphic women in erotic poses. This can include "well developed" 13 year olds on up. Most of the people getting busted are NOT getting in trouble for "Traci Lords" type of child porn where the participants look a little young. That's not what the Feebs are after and that's not what most people think of when they think of child porn. Billy Oblivion · August 2, 2009 05:47 PM Post a comment
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