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August 30, 2009
Unverifiable quotes drive me to drinking!
As I suspect is the case with many people who get email, I often get multiply forwarded emails making all sorts of claims, with all sorts of emotionally appealing quotes from famous people. By emotionally appealing, I mean saying stuff I like to hear and want to believe. Like the drinking quotes. There is something very appealing in having great men carry on about the wonders of a morally maligned substance like booze -- and you don't have to be a drunken sot to enjoy them. The problem is, some or most of them might not be true, and there's nothing more time-consuming that having to engage in detailed historical research over a single, silly email which was after all only intended as entertainment. The text of latest email is titled "Beer Theories" and here's what it says: Well, the Franklin one isn't verifiable anywhere, and many have tried. I hate it not being true as it's one of my favorites. It would take me a long time to go through them all, but I'm sure some of them are legit. However, the LBJ quote seems to have been said by Frank Sinatra! AND by Lyndon Johnson. Obviously, both are highly unlikely to be right. As to the Mencken quote, I'm not as much of a Mencken scholar as I should be, but he was known to be a home brewer, so I guess he might have said that about 24 beers, as this site says he did. The Shaw quote is attributed here to Brian O'Rourke. Maybe the rest all said what they're quoted as saying, but I doubt it. (Or maybe I should just be happy and say they might as well have....) Maybe pro-booze and anti-booze readers can help out, and pro-accuracy-in-email readers can chip in; I am busy today and don't know whether I'll have time for all of this nonsense. MORE: "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading" is quoted here as having been said by comedian Henny Youngman. That's enough "scholarship" for now. posted by Eric on 08.30.09 at 10:49 AM
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"I haven't said half the things I've said." Thomas Jefferson, "Stuff Jefferson Said", 4th edition, revised Veeshir · August 30, 2009 02:07 PM I am skeptical about the Babe Ruth quote, because while he was the greatest baseball player who ever lived, he didn’t impress me as being the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. I doubt he could have come up with such a sophisticated train of thought. Here that Babe Ruth quote is attributed to Deep Thought, Jack Handy . Here is one alleged Babe Ruth quote which sounds more like him. I learned early to drink beer, wine and whiskey. And I think I was about 5 when I first chewed tobacco.Here is another beer quote from Babe Ruth’s funeral. Q .Who were Babe Ruth's pallbearers?I highly recommend Leigh Montville’s The Big Bam, a biography of Babe Ruth. His biography of Ted Williams is also a good read. Gringo · August 30, 2009 02:19 PM I think it was Tom Waits who said, gregor · August 30, 2009 05:52 PM Hardly definitive, but I am sitting with Benjamin Wallace's The Billionaire's Vinegar. In the endnotes, it cites the proof that God loves us quote in John Hailman, Thomas Jefferson on Wine (Jackson: University Press of Mississippi, 2006), 76. As cited, Franklin was referring to wine. quiescere · August 31, 2009 06:55 AM Post a comment
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Henny Youngman was also known for his famous line:
"Now take my wife. Please!"
Obviously not enough beer.