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December 26, 2008
The Solar Bail Out
Yes. Solar has a very bright future. A long as the subsidies keep coming. If estimates hold up, by 2030, 2000-GW-scale power plants will be necessary to meet new electricity demand, and a potential need will arise to replace a large number of obsolete power plants. Demand on this scale, coupled with industrial and consumer demand and the desire to be free of foreign-fuel sources, has opened up significant opportunities for the PV market, Gartner says.China alone is building a 1 GW coal plant every week and plans to keep doing it for decades. So let us see 21 years times 52 weeks a year equals over 1,000 GW scale power plants for China alone. That is a lot of electrical demand. Solar can surely help. Paula Mints, principal analyst for Navigant Consulting's PV-services program and associate director of Navigant's energy practice, agrees that solar will continue to maintain the excitement it has garnered as of late. However, she says, the market is first going to soften, for the obvious reason: the economy. "People are drawing back on larger projects because credit is tight," she says.Uh oh. Just one solar power consuming country ends its subsidy and the market backs up. And here is the problem in a nut shell. Or perhaps a better name for the problem is the taxpayer's wallet. According to Navigant's Mints, incentives are the only factors that drive demand in solar unless it is off-grid. "The Spanish market is a case in point," she explains. "[Spain] put a cap on [its] market, and now the whole world shrinks because of that [decision]. These are really expensive programs that are very difficult to design. They have to be designed to stimulate a market [but] also be controllable and economically viable because someone has to pay for it. Essentially, where there are incentives, there will tend to be a market. This [situation] is a little offset right now because of the economy, but I don't think anyone believes the recession will go on forever. ... Once there is a recovery, the proper incentives will be in place to drive demand."Incentives are another word for bail out. Translation: bail out equals theft from taxpayers. So let me see if I get this: as long as solar electricity costs more than the alternatives it will be dependent on government thieves for survival. Or if you prefer - a bail out? Or better yet nationalization. Maybe we just hide what is going on and call it a Green jobs program. Not to fear. Solar can depend on the dupes (oops - I mean taxpayers) to keep funding their life style. But Applied officials remain optimistic. "We see a lot of opportunities in the solar market, and a couple of things drive that [opportunity]," says Boone. "First, government incentives still are quite strong for solar. The United States finally [passed] the extension of the ITC [incentive tax credit], and, for the first time, that tax credit is now available to residential homeowners without a cap--that means any size system." The $2000 cap limited who could take advantage of it, she explains. "And we certainly don't want to be in a position where ... only people at a higher-income category can afford to get solar."No caps? Well good. That means there is no limit to the theft. I mean bail out. This has got to be more fun than No income, no job, no assets mortgages. So let me see if I have this right. Electric rates will tend to go up due to higher costs but the difference will be made up in part by stealing (oops again - I mean taxing) the same people who are paying higher prices for electricity. Who ever figured this scam out was a genius. Was it Chris Dodd or Barney Frank? Something like this would be right up their alley. So what are the prospects for getting the costs down? Not bad. It is currently about three times more expensive to generate electricity with PV (photovoltaic) technology than with fossil fuels. But strong efforts to reduce costs in crystalline PV and thin-film PV could allow grid parity to occur between 2012 and 2015.Well yeah. There is that capital cost thing and the banks aren't loaning money right now. And BTW are you sure to be living in the house for 10 or 15 years so you can get your money back? I have a swell idea. The government should force every home owner it bails out to buy a roof top full of solar cells. One thing though. I hope they don't do that in Alaska. For six months out of the year they hardly get any sunlight at all. Or for that matter Seattle which is dismal and dreary most of the year. Must be all those socialists and Greens. A more earnest dreary lot would be hard to find. One thing is for sure, once the government starts stealing there is no limit to the number of people it can help. And if the government steals everything from everyone there will be almost enough money to help every one. And why almost? Well we will have government people helping with this project and as per usual they will help themselves to more than their share and some one is sure to get shorted. I do know what to do though. Phase out the subsidies and just let people keep their own money. No matter what you have been told, government cannot help Paul by robbing from Paul and Peter will be leaving the country due to high rates of theft. I mean taxes. Cross Posted at Classical Values posted by Simon on 12.26.08 at 05:00 AM
Comments
I wish people would stop obsessing over the Chinese coal plants. Surely Obama will put a stop to them. Steve Skubinna · December 27, 2008 03:43 AM solar has come a long way in a relatively short time. technology is moving at a rapid rate. soon we will have parity. let's face it, we need alternative energy sources and solar has to be included in this. Total Solar Energy · December 27, 2008 10:13 AM Solar is good, The deal is: money spent now where it doesn't make economic sense without subsidies is a waste. I will admit it funds research. However, direct grants for research would be more efficient. M. Simon · December 27, 2008 05:29 PM I live in a city that prides itself on its involvement in the new solar economy. One of the successful high-volume thin cell producers is near my home. Not long ago I needed to re-roof, and wanted to incorporate some power-gathering capacity into the deck. So I contacted the company to ask about their roof-film products, that were at the time being trumpeted about in the local paper, the eco-press, and the trade publications. To tell the truth, I was hoping to be offered clinical trials, or a chance to back-door some marginally functional blow-bys to gin up my own. I'd have settled for an out-the-door price by the yard (well, square metre), or the name of a certified installer. What I got was a boilerplate of their marketing strategy: to make this product available only in China. In my opinion, subsidy grantsmanship kills off all the behavior I recognize as innovation, in favor of very photogenic white-coat stuff that's excellent PR for...more subsidy grants. It's what you might call a closed system. They don't want me: when this product achieves governmental critical mass, it will be spoon-fed to yuppies and flakes through approved channels. They will have to do that without my support. comatus · December 28, 2008 01:20 PM @Hugh True, and even if it was robbing Peter to pay Paul it would only be a matter of time before Peter realizes that if he made as much money as Paul he too would be paid without doing anything. Miraj Patel · January 3, 2009 11:04 PM Post a comment
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Robbing Peter to pay Paul works for a while, but this is robbing Peter to pay Peter, and using half of the money for administration costs.
All this can do is promote bankruptcy of all.