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July 30, 2008
It's A Zero Sum Game
I just came across an interesting thread on some kind of strange Google blog that talks about the Democrat's anti-oil position. One commenter says this about oil drilling (edited slightly for typos and clarity) The 10 year timeframe that everyone keeps repeating is not a very realistic one. It takes less than a year to construct and get a standard land based 20,000 foot drilling platform producing oil. Offshore jack up rigs can take two to three years and a semi up to 4. The ten year figure got started because that is the estimimate by some so called experts for drilling in ANWR and establishing the infrastructure needed to support it. Mostly due to the fact that the heavy equipment needed to excavate the site can only operate on the tundra during the winter months. Once they have found the right spots and oil starts flowing the permanent platforms and roads would then be constructed.I never knew that. You learn something every day. Then another commenter said that drilling for oil is a zero sum game. I hope he is right because if it is and we start drilling we will get the sums and the Saudis will get the zeros. Cross Posted at Power and Control posted by Simon on 07.30.08 at 12:12 PM
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One factor inhibiting drilling is the shortage of personnel--petroleum geologists and skilled workers. During the late 1990s, the only technology that the media wanted to discuss was "computers," and this probably discouraged a lot of people from oil-related college & trade-school choices. Now, the general hostility toward the oil industry & its future is probably having a similar effect. david foster · July 30, 2008 01:19 PM I suspect "zero-sum game" means something like finite resource in this context, though admittedly, it's hard to say for sure. This would accord with generally-expressed worry about many of earth's resources: "once you use it, it's gone!" This is a simple and appealing formulation which has the unfortunate primary characteristic of being wrong. While it is technically true that there is only so much zinc or magnesium in the earth, it is not true that we know their limits. Extraction improves, new sources are discovered, substitutes are developed, and future need for zinc or magnesium is unknown. So too with oil. It is not like a plate of cookies that your mom left out, with nation-siblings scrambling to divide the last few. That dramatic analogy captures the unspoken reasoning of progressives. They have an impression that the world is going to hell somehow, and that feeling seeks explanations. One of the explanations they have currently fastened on is environmental crisis and collapse.* The narrative of ecological decay accords with their own sense of overall decay, so they embrace the explanation. But their impression of deterioration derives from other causes, and will attach to something else if environmental concerns are answered. It is within them, and they don't want to look there. *Other explanations adopted for subterranean emotive reasons rather than intellectual ones include the belief that Bush is tyrannical, or that conservatives are less intelligent and easily manipulated. Assistant Village Idiot · July 30, 2008 01:57 PM No matter what, there will be some delay, but the day that we see new oil from new drilling will be that long after we start new drilling. I don't think it can happen at all if we don't drill. Can it? Bob Thompson · July 30, 2008 02:14 PM That zero-sum game comment was very darn funny, I have to wonder if it was by a satire-troll. Veeshir · July 30, 2008 02:19 PM They've been increasing the time scale lately. Now they're saying it will take until 2030. Joseph Hertzlinger · July 31, 2008 12:38 AM I would guess most of the delays are for environmental impact reports. Aaron · July 31, 2008 02:35 AM A 12,000 foot well was drilled on a relative's land, beginning in early October. Ten weeks later the well was finished and the well was producing. Gringo · July 31, 2008 12:40 PM One factor inhibiting drilling is the shortage of personnel--petroleum geologists and skilled workers.
Which brings back the old classic from the 1980. Q: What company is the biggest employer of petroleum engineers? Q. Sears Roebuck. Gringo · July 31, 2008 03:36 PM Post a comment
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That's good information and now that I've read it, it makes perfect sense. 10 years is absurd. Thanks for the post.
I wonder what that guy meant by "zero sum game." Unfortunately, what he probably meant is he has no idea what he's talking about but wants to sound intelligent while throwing off the discussion. Virtually nothing in life is a "zero sum game."