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May 29, 2008
Just don't question their patriotism....
I don't know what it is about me and emails I don't agree with, but earlier today I received an impassioned plea from the "Lighted Candle Society" informing me that my tax dollars are "subsidizing pornography." Naturally, that got my attention, for the word "subsidize" means "finance, support, promote, sponsor, underwrite, put up the money for," and I honestly didn't know the government was paying for porn with my dollars. But that's what the email said: My tax dollars areFirst of all, since when is allowing a store to sell something a subsidy? To my mind, subsidizing pornography means buying it for someone else. If the government letting a vendor sell something is a subsidy, by that standard almost anything which is sold can be said to be subsidized. And it came as quite a shock to me that anyone in this day and age would consider Playboy to be pornography. Apparently the problem is that under existing law, it isn't pornography. Thus, the goal of the bill is to have the government declare it to be pornography. I read the bill (HR 5821), and it broadens the existing definition of "sexually explicit material" to include nudity. I guess that means not only no more Playboy, but no more art magazines featuring Renoir! It's easy to be flippant and say something like "I wish these people would get a life!" The problem is, I'm afraid they have a life, and this is it. Sigh. Without getting into the pros and cons of either real pornography or Playboy, I do have a philosophical question. Shouldn't it be up to the military to decide what is and what is and what is not allowed to be sold to soldiers without congressional meddling? It's not as if we're talking about children here. They are soldiers, and they are risking their lives in the defense of their country. Where do people get off trying to censor their reading material? Isn't there still a war on? (Well, if the bill passes, I guess concerned citizens could always start a compaign along the lines of "Send a copy of Playboy to a soldier!" Yeah, I know that would be a subsidy, but at least it would be private. Hey, whatever it takes to help win the war!) MORE: Dean Esmay must be on the same mailing list I'm on, for he got the email too. He doesn't think this stunt will help the congressman much: Congressman Broun, if he is successful, will soon become the most hated man in Congress among those serving.Maybe he doesn't realize there's an election in November. posted by Eric on 05.29.08 at 06:19 PM
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I'm not about to second-guess the discretion of the base commander. That's something for the military to decide. Not Congress. And certainly not some busybody group. Eric Scheie · May 29, 2008 07:00 PM For what it's worth, the BX still carries Playboy, and Maxim, but not Penthouse or Hustler. (Are they even still in print?) Motorcycle and car magazines, of course. Muscle-building stuff. Also home stuff, cooking and decorating magazines. Plus the fun stuff like the Enquirer and Star at the checkouts - but not the Weekly World News, that's no longer in print. What IS odd, however, is a decided lack of military themed or SF paperbacks. There's a scattering of westerns, and a lot of romances and 'inspirational' reading. Way I look at it, if you're in the military you're old enough to decide what you want to read. Thankfully, with the internet and Amazon.com, it's REAL easy to get what you're looking for! JLawson · May 29, 2008 07:13 PM What strikes me as odd is that Michael Yon's book (according to his website) is not available in PXs and BXs. Where do government contractors get off deciding our warriors don't want to read about their successes? Which points out that it is often a non-military company deciding what the military gets to buy on base or post. They can, of course, buy anything they want to from civilian sources. Donna B. · May 29, 2008 10:57 PM Well, maybe someone would like to point out to the Congressman that if the troops overseas cannot purchase jackoff materials, they may do one of two things*; 1. Find 'bitches' amongst themselves, like in prison. 2. Um, yeah, them UN troops and teenagers. What they did. Which is perhaps what's known as unintended consequences. The Congressman might reconsider his stance (wide) after that. *Yeah, I know, far-fetched, but seriously, there are bad eggs everywhere, despite the generally high standards of the US armed forces, and this kind of crap nobody needs, least of all some stupid Congress-critter mucking stuff up as usual. Gregory · May 29, 2008 11:56 PM Playboy is porn for those that get their rocks off to bad air brush jobs. This bill and its sponsors are ridiculous, let the military have its porn. John · May 30, 2008 11:46 AM Our military folks are already giving up a whole lot of their freedom to defend ours. It hardly seems fair to take away any more of it. Besides, "cheesecake" is a fine old military tradition! Think of the nose art on WWII aircraft. If this silly bill goes through, I will start a morale campaign: If sleazy lefty skanks can flaunt their grubby hides for protests and such, conservative babes can surely do even better by "lowering the shields", as it were, to raise troop morale. Albums of the resultant photographs could be prepared and sent in care packages. Heck, I'll contribute some of my own, too! Although I must admit that, plump and middle-aged as I am, I would definitely benefit from the assistance of a highly skilled airbrush technician, were all of me to be displayed in the altogether. ;-) Mary in LA · May 30, 2008 02:01 PM See, this is where conservatives start thinking maybe they're more libertarian than they thought, and distancing themselves from types of conservatives. Of course, I suppose the busybody group could be liberals - there has been a shift in that direction over the decades. Candlelight vigils are usually a liberal thing. Nah. I'll bet it's our own side being jerks here. Assistant Village Idiot · May 30, 2008 03:43 PM Post a comment
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Waay back when I was in the service (more than 40 years ago), I found out that some PXs and BXs carried Playboy, and some did not. I do not know for sure, but had been told it was at the discretion of the base commander. It may well have been the PX / BX manager that made the decision. Playboy was considered racy, if not quite pornography at the time. But of course, that was before Jimmy Carter's "I have lusted in my heart" interview.