"Nobody clapped"

Take a long, hard look at this video:

Barack Obama said that when he gave a speech in Detroit telling automakers that they had to build more energy efficient cars, nobody clapped.

The reaction of most people who look at the above would be to conclude that he's simply lying. Obviously (unless the video is doctored and the applause was pasted in), his recollection of what happened does not square with the facts.

But does this necessarily mean he was consciously lying? In linking the above, Glenn Reynolds compared it to the Hillary Bosnia sniper flap. During that controversy, many people (myself included), thought it was yet another example of Hillary Clinton's longstanding "congenital liar syndrome."

However, while almost no one swallowed Hillary's lame "sleep deprivation" excuse, some analysts noted that there might be another possibility beyond mere pathological lying:

There are two possibilities: Hillary may be a pathological liar. Or, more persuasive to me, Hillary believed what she was saying and her description of her Bosnia trip was a true representation of her psychic reality and not external reality. In her internal world, Hillary may feel as though she's always being shot at by sniper fire and that she's heroically managed to stay alive.

This theory makes sense of Hillary's recklessness. It didn't feel reckless to Hillary to repeat this lie over and over again, and she paid no heed to those who contradicted her, because in her mind, she was telling the truth. Only when confronted with undeniable evidence of external reality -- actual footage from her Bosnia trip - did she admit (possibly to herself as well as the public) that her version of events was not true.

The bottom line is that Hillary considered herself either a hero or a victim:
In the course of Hillary's campaign, a number of features have repeatedly emerged that are also elements of her Bosnia tale. 1) Hillary is both hero and victim; 2) facts are of no consequence; 3) And there are no witnesses or observers to the facts. This last point is always startling. For example, Hillary's explanation of her vote on the war made Nora Ephron wonder if Hillary thought we "weren't alive at the time."

On the tarmac in Bosnia, Hillary is the victim for being shot at and the hero for braving a war zone. And she's apparently having a negative hallucination that nobody else was there. The irony, of course, is that when the Bosnia story was discovered, it reinforced Hillary's psychic reality: Once again she felt she was being sniped at (this time by journalists). And that she had to heroically fight on and escape this near-death experience. Which it now seems she has.

Much as I dislike her, I'd almost prefer to think of Hillary as a liar than as a confabulating neurotic locked into a histrionic duality of hero-or-victim hallucinatory role playing.

But according to the experts, it doesn't much matter what I'd prefer to think about Hillary at this stage of the game, does it?

So, unsettling as it is to contemplate the possibility that Barack Obama might not be lying in his own mind, the simple fact is that either he was consciously lying, or else he was engaged in the same type of hero-or-victim self-delusion explored in the above theory about Hillary.

If this was not a conscious lie, the fact that he said "nobody clapped" when the crowd did in fact clap evinces a simultaneous desire to be both a hero and a victim. More worrisome to me is the possibility that he knew they clapped, but didn't think they clapped long enough or loud enough, because that might -- and I stress might -- indicate paranoid megalomania. Leaders whose egos demand prolonged and sustained applause (of the "better clap or else" variety) tend to have less than stellar historical track records, and I'd rather avoid giving examples.

So I just hope it was an ordinary lie.

MORE: While her analysis relates to the "now you see it now you don't" flag pin controversy, I find Ann Althouse's reaction reassuring:

Come on! He's lying! Don't lie! I mean, I know you've been having an unimaginably powerful experience with millions of people buying the things you say, but don't get cocky. We do still have our lie detectors, and we can reactivate them if we get in the mood to. Don't push us. Keep the magic alive.
Keep the magic alive, but remember that it's not really magic. Better an honest liar than someone who believes his own lies. Better an honest magician than one who believes his tricks are real.

posted by Eric on 05.16.08 at 10:21 AM





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The crazy part is, clapping could easily have fit into the Obama narrative--that he's got the courage and intelligence to say what the leaders fear but that the people are thinking.

tim maguire   ·  May 16, 2008 10:56 AM

Perhaps he needs some advice:

"In the future, I plan on taking more of an active role in the decisions I make."

Because if he isn't taking that role *now*, then he is in for a world of hurt.

Just ask Paris... I'm sure she's at just about his speed on things.

ajacksonian   ·  May 16, 2008 11:06 AM

As much as I dislike Mrs. Clinton, I do have to wonder if she's not totally to blame for these sniper delusions. She's spent something like 16 years under 24/7 secret service protection. I imagine she gets a briefing detailing potential risks to her life pretty regularly. Is it inconceivable that having a very serious team of professionals tell you regularly tell you you could be in grave danger could sometimes convince you that you actually are in grave danger? Could her pre-bosnia security briefing have covered sniper-fire as a potential threat? I wouldn't be surprised. There's a certain Walter Mitty pathos to the whole thing, but I don't think it measures up to other Clintonian lies.
As far as Obama and his followers' delusions, get with the narrative! This is the only guy willing to speak truth to power to bring us together! Is he seriously talking about some kind of special deal with automakers where they get some kind of deal with health care if they promise to use the savings to build greener vehicles? As if the government-labor-industry technocratic morass in the auto industry isn't a big enough mess already? I guess he's not big on lassies-faire economics...

SuperMike   ·  May 16, 2008 12:15 PM

If you look at the Detroit video, he looks up from his applause line, and gets a smattering of applause. "They didn't like that here," his mind registers. He ignores the standing-O at the end of the speech, because he always gets a standing-O at the end of a speech.

That could easily become "nobody clapped". A more gifted liar would have said "... was received less than enthusiastically...", with the proper ironic tone and cadence.

Loren Heal   ·  May 16, 2008 12:41 PM

So how is he going to bring jobs back to Detroit?

Outlaw automation?

Force Americans to buy American made cars?

M. Simon   ·  May 16, 2008 11:48 PM

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