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April 12, 2008
Which party left me?
I hate socialism. I abhor the welfare state. Seriously, I think it will eventually be the death of this country. Even more than that I detest identity politics. So, because the modern Democratic Party is built on both, I'm not a happy camper there (despite my current registration), and I never will be. Now, both parties contain lots of people who call other people names and launch character attacks against them. The difference between the two parties in this regard lies primarily in the respective targets of the name-calling, and the nature of the justifications invoked. Democrats (and I refer to activist Democrats here -- the type I cannot stand) generally believe it's fair game to attack those perceived to be powerful, white, male, heterosexual, and on the right -- especially on the "Christian right." Libertarians of the pro-war variety are subject to a particularly vicious form of attack, and and not just because their partial agreement with the "left" on "certain social issues" is seen as untidy, but because they see it as a very dangerous invitation to wholesale defection by "weaker" leftists. You know, feeble-minded bourgeois types who secretly think that if you have a right to do what you want with your own body, you might just have the right to defend it. Or (worse yet) that "human rights" might even include the right to own your own property without government interference. Or that when the country is attacked by free-floating, strike-and-run terrorist irregulars, it might be a good idea to figure out a way to engage them. But this does not explain fully why disagreement on some issues is considered far more threatening to the left than disagreement on all issues, and why it is targeted with such particular wrath. (Even Andrew Sullivan remains loathed by many on the left, and his voting for Kerry was seen as some sort of trick.) That this kind of "partial agreement heresy" is attacked so furiously is complicated to explain, but this vintage gem from James Wolcott is a great example: ....I'm getting awfully tired of the trope from certain bloggers that Hey, don't label me or him a conservative. Why, I'm for gay marriage and marched for civil rights once upon a time and favor a women's right to choose.Wolcott's argument, was, of course, lost on me, as I don't buy whole packages; I hold my nose and vote for whichever candidate strikes me as the least offensive. Republicans are with some exceptions more protective of rights and of the country than are Democrats, and at a national level, their belief in federalism generally prevents the shrill social conservatives from doing much more than huffing and puffing, insulting people, and threatening to leave the party. Still, the hard core activists in both parties are very distrustful of partial dissenters, and I think that what makes this partial disagreement so dangerous (and so threatening to both right and left) is that it exposes the inconsistency of the way they have agreed to divvy up rights which ought to flow logically from the position that free men all share the same rights. It's as if some group of conspirators sat down and said, "OK, you take the right to be hedonistic and atheistic, and we'll take the right to be greedy have guns and worship God!" It has worked so well that people just assume this division of the rights of man is a natural part of politics -- as if freedom is not a concept but a political pie to be cut up and offered (or withheld) in selective slices. The reason so many people miss the inconsistency is that by nature they are joiners, and they join parties for the same reason they join most things: in order to feel comfortable. Let's face it, if you're a gay atheist, you'll find more gay atheists in the Democratic Party, and they'll tell you you're "welcome" there, but that the Republicans hate you. (Fortunately for them, it's easy to point to high-profile conservative attacks on "secularism" and the "homosexual agenda" as proof.) And if you're a gun-owning believer in God who thinks your money is yours, you'll likely find more people like that in the Republican Party, and they'll tell you you're not welcome in the Democratic Party. (Again, high-profile attacks on gun owners, the "greedy" and "the Christianists" are standard Democratic fare.) Frankly, it bothers the hell out of me that so many conservatives think that having a First Amendment right to insult people and call them names and launch character attacks means these things are desirable, even good to do. There's even a meme going around that because opposition to evolution has been labeled "politically incorrect" that it must be cool. It's as if they're aping the left by mindlessly doing the opposite. Take identity politics as another example. I have hated it for years as the antithesis of all logic and reason, as the worst sort or groupthink, as outright pandering to the mob, even. Yet identity politics has in recent years crept and grown, until at last it has insinuated its way quite deeply into that group of people who call themselves the "Republican base." If you doubt me, just take a look at this humorous post about Christian identity politics. Now, I have long complained about the similarities between gay activists and anti-gay activists. (From the pre-blogging infancy of this blog, in fact.) I once thought it was a very ironic comparison. But identity politics has now spread to the point where there are groups of people on both sides of the aisle who are paranoid to the point that they see disagreement as akin to discrimination. To be fair, Republicans who adopt identity politics only apply it to groups they approve of, just as Democrats who would support gay identity support groups could never imagine gun owners identity support groups. Where is the line to be drawn? What is sometimes forgotten is that identity politics was -- and is -- born as a reaction against bigotry and personal attacks. (Or worse.) Entire nations have arisen this way. Arguments grounded in identity politics led to Kosovo (and much further back in the Balkans) and could be advanced to divide Kurdistan, Rwanda, Canada, and if the cancer grows, maybe even the United States itself. I like to think that identity politics is un-American. But here, it typically arises in reaction to simple bigotry. It's easy to say it "shouldn't" but that doesn't change the fact that it does. (I wish some of the people who condemn it would condemn it wherever it occurs...) Conservatives often forget that the Klan and Jim Crow gave birth to black identity politics. That sodomy laws and anti-gay bigotry created the gay movement, that obsessive preoccupations and denunciations of "the homosexual agenda" fuels gay identity politics, and even causes well-meaning people to embrace it -- thus promoting the very "agenda" being denounced. And off course, leftist attacks on "Christianists" accomplish exactly the same thing. It's easy to say I'm a libertarian, but even there I'm screwed, because I'm a war-supporting libertarian -- something said to be impossible. So what do I do? I left the Republican Party to help counter the Limbaugh Democrats for Hillary. Did it leave me? I don't know, but I'll say this right now: if Hillary is able to turn this around and beat Obama, she can -- and will -- beat McCain. That's because if she wins, she'll be a battle-hardened winner from the right -- placing her in the very comfortable middle. (People forget that a major reason for the apparent incompetence of the Clinton campaign is that they're great at triangulating Republicans, but not an attractive young black man with a message of hope, but that's another issue.) Anyway, I find it downright creepy that a sizeable chunk of the Republican party actually, seriously want their own party to lose -- presumably so they can take it over. To them, if I return to the Republican Party I'm a RINO, because I'll vote for McCain. If they're the base, I'm glad I'm not. I'm thinking maybe I should be a Democrat for McCain. It's not perfect, but it might make it easier to live with my conscience. I still hate the bases, though. Sometimes I think both parties need acid. MORE: I realize that this post barely scratches the surface of some of the complexities involved. Added to the problems I discussed is the increasing inability to determine the meaning of liberal and conservative, even right and left. Even I call myself a "classical liberal," but that is said now to be conservative." Fascism can arguably be called left wing, and Communism has been described as "right wing" -- at least to people who claim "right wing" means "submission to perceived authorities." (Which means hopeless individualists like me cannot be on the right.) The problem there is that a lot of mindless followers on both sides submit to authorities. Discussion is further complicated by post-modernist contentions like "words are not truth." (But what if lies become true with age?) MORE: In a recent post about Barack Obama, Baldilocks looks at the inconsistent way some conservatives apply the concept of individual responsibility: ....neither I nor any other person/group has the right to offer another person/group any absolution for the sins of their fathers--if those sins exist--nor make anyone feel guilty about sins not their own.Read it all. And her earlier post on the Golden Rule is great too. posted by Eric on 04.12.08 at 09:33 AM
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sounds pretty true. do keep in mind that there are people that do their best to stir up opposition on the other side as a way of solidifying their bases. think Human Rights Campaign with their insistance on a judicial solution to the question of gay marriage. instead of a long march strategy, state by state public relations campaigns designed to convince 51% of the population that gay marriage is ok, (think Shall Issue permit laws) they have gone straight for the most offensive way possible to get their way. it is possible to do something good in a bad way. i can't think that the people in charge of this one are so stupid that they did not know how this would turn out. ID is such a stupid issue. there are two types of idiots on this issue. those who oppose the theory of evolution because it denys God's existance, and those who deny God's existance because the theory of evolution tells them to. somehow there exists a tendency in people that causes them to believe that if you REALLY believe in something you should be prepared to look stupid to prove it. Sean · April 12, 2008 10:43 AM The "right" to a marriage license is illusory. I see it as little more than the right to have the state in your bedroom, and I've written a number of posts on the subject. As to the education issue, I've written more posts like this than I care to remember: http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/2005/06/my_education_ed.html (Of course, once you've written a post no matter how long it might have taken, it disappears in a week.) Eric Scheie · April 12, 2008 12:02 PM When Jews celebrate the holiday of Purim - the deliverance of the Jews from an evil Minister of the Persian King - they are admonished to get so drunk that they cannot tell the difference between Haman, the King's Minister, and Mordecai, the Jew who stopped him cold. Why? Although the Minister caused serious tribulation for the Jews he also united them. The story is recounted in the Bible as the book of Esther. We have our own example. Remember how 9/11 united Americans? Flags everywhere. Human nature. Fascinating. M. Simon · April 12, 2008 02:01 PM SeniorD, There are so many subjects not taught in public schools. Maxwell's Theories. Advanced Quantum Chromodynamics. Partial Differential Equations. Physical Chemistry. Plato's Republic in the original Greek. The Bible in the original Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew. The Cuneiform alphabet. Yiddish. Classic Nahuatl. Zoroastrianism. The Hindu Pantheon. The Buddhist Eightfold way. The Talmud on tort law. As to group identity - of course you are right. We can't have that. Think of all the Jews who would be offended if Christianity was taught in school. M. Simon · April 12, 2008 05:52 PM I don't care if people are labeled conservative or liberal - it doesn’t tell me what they really believe. This is what I want to know: Do you believe all people are created equal before the law? Do you believe that we are endowed by our Creator with the irreversible human rights to life, liberty and creative pursuit of happiness? Do you believe that our government, including the Constitution and the three branches were created to secure our pre-existing God-given rights to life, liberty and creative pursuit of happiness - and not to construed as the actual source of those rights? Do you believe that just (as in justice) government power only derives from the consent of the governed, and that tyrannies govern without this consent? Do you believe it is an act of tyranny when the Supreme Court, while trying cases, interprets the Bill of Rights in a way that was not intended at the time of its writing, as a means of establishing federal law without new legislation or Constitutional amendment? Do you believe that is a way of altering or nullifying the Bill of Rights without the consent of the governed?
Ronald · April 12, 2008 11:01 PM Got you beat there Mr. Simon. Studied Clerk Maxwell's theories in electromagnetic propogation in High School Physics. Did Plato's
Easy of choice is evil and pleasant is the choosing, Very smooth is the way and close beside us lieth. But sweat the gods have ordained be ours in the getting of virtue. SeniorD · April 13, 2008 09:06 PM What is being described are two different, but related systems of thought. The first is what I have come to call the schismatics rule: There is no greater heretic than one who professes 95% similar beliefs to you, but varies on details and on the remaining 5%. This happened in the candidacy of Taft for President and his religious difference was used as a dividing line between mainline Protestant churches and Taft's beliefs. Suddenly not holding to the Christian Orthodoxy became far more important than mere Protestant/Catholic divisions as they both agree on the Orthodoxy, just not its interpretations. Stepping back to the 30 years war, slight variations in Catholicism, Lutheranism or Calvinism meant visiting war upon those who did not hold with the main parts of those views. Many of those minor sects did not trust their luck in Europe and fled to the New World to escape persecution. The second part is: the rule of factions. In stating the 'well we hold that together and in common but you don't believe in X, Y, and Z' we see the incarnation of this rule in the political realm. What this leads to, however, is not unifying themes of politics, but factionation within parties and groups. The Left, in general, has been practicing this since the first stand-up of socialist parties which almost immediately demonstrated internal differences in doctrinal interpretation and, from that, factionated into smaller parties. Anyone who holds the majority of the belief but differs on interpretation and doctrine, that final 5%, becomes a bitter and hated enemy. The reason the Reds and the Browns were killing each other off in Germany during the late 1920's is not for their stark differences in ideology, which were almost identical, but for the minor views of localized interpretation. National Socialism was deemed to be on the right of SOCIALISM by International Socialists known as Communists, and anyone who differed with Communists but agreed on Socialism, by and large, was lumped into the hated views of National Socialism. Post-WWI Germany saw not only the 'old guard' SDP, but the 'new guard' coming via splitting off from the SDP (most notably the Sparticists) and groups arising from the more fiercely doctrinal International Socialist views (Communists). In response another faction formed which held to fiercely Nationalist views of Socialism (NSDAP or Nazi Party) that hewed a bit to the Italian Fascist views, but with severe difference based on racial historical views. Scattered in that inter-war milieu were Trotskyites, Wilsonians, and a hodge-podge of Bohemian derived leftist ideologies, often with a following of only a few hundred. And *each* of those bitterly countered the rest as not having 'purity of belief'. When we hear the 'what have you done for the cause lately?', you hear an individual pre-supposing that the cause is more important than having a coherent view that can be satisfied with certain ends as a good in, and of, themselves. Having purity of cause then trumps actually helping society to better function and is an authoritarian view of the world. Identity politics, as practiced in the post-1960 era has been an effort to move beyond 'race and gender' and further subdivide and pigeonhole each and every individual to pre-conceived notions of how things 'ought to be', while never stating what that final end goal is. The process of attaching dehumanizing labels then becomes more important than any overall goal which was lost when the first gains were achieved and then helping society to come to terms with those changes became necessary. The New Left fled the field of hard work and went to the next field of Identity Politics to further subdivide the Nation against itself. And if you disagree? Why then you get cast down as a 'conservative' of one form or another. Lumped, like the Communists did to their detractors, into the category also containing the leftist declared Right Socialist doctrine of fascism... while ignoring that doing such mental lumping and heaping scorn upon that association and any you put into it via those labels AS fascism in and of itself. And heaven forbid if you hold a separate view of society, nations and the world that adheres to something relatively solid and recommends few changes from it unless they can be demonstrated as having some ability to secure and spread liberty and freedom. That gets you turned into so many different category labels that they all nearly cancel out... and no one knows what to do with you. As Bette Middler said: 'I wasn't born a Democrat, or a Republican, or Yesterday.' I have severe problems with both parties as I do rememer Yesterday...and read of those Yesterdays before my time. The party of Jackson is dead, although there are still Jacksonians. The party of Lincoln is dead, although those holding Lincoln's ideals still thrive. And hearing Washington's words about foreign entanglements has strong meaning to this day. That, as a nation, we had best adhere to the Law of Nations as that is good, right, proper and reasonable for a nation to do... and expect the same from every, single other nation. ajacksonian · April 14, 2008 07:13 AM Post a comment
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Eric,
Have you ever given thought as to the dearth of subjects taught in Public School? I speak of Ethics and Morals. Dewey, in creating his vision of Public Schools did not want those subjects taught for one reason: they spoke to Individuals. The Teacher's Unions (another form of thought/action socialism) took that baton and ran all the way to the finish line where we now find ourselves. Children being fed Socialist claptrap focusing on Group Identity.