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August 15, 2007
Correcting wikipedia entries
Considering the Wikipedia editing scandal that's erupted lately, I don't know whether this is the right time for me to be raising questions which go to Wikipedia's "integrity," so perhaps I should hold off on publishing this post; perhaps not. Much as I'm tempted to dive into the Wiki fun roundup that Glenn Reynolds posted yesterday, this involves history more than comedy. What happened might be laughable, but I'd like to get it properly corrected. The truth is, despite my penchant for citing Wikipedia (a source I really want to respect), I still don't have a clue about how to get errors corrected, and there are glaring errors in the Wiki writeup on John Dean, which frankly make Wikipedia look like a crummy, fickle, very partisan source. For years, this was part of the Wiki entry for John Dean: Dean chronicled his White House experiences, with a focus on Watergate, in the memoirs Blind Ambition and Lost Honor. In 1995 he admitted Blind Ambition was ghostwritten by Taylor Branch, that he never reviewed the book "cover to cover" and that portions of the book were fabricated by "out of whole cloth" by Branch. Branch has denied claims of fabrication.(For more on Silent Coup, see below.*) And here's how the same passage in the Wiki entry reads today: Dean chronicled his White House experiences, with a focus on Watergate, in the memoirs Blind Ambition and Lost Honor. Blind Ambition would become the point of controversy many years after its publication.More below.** (I wrote a couple of posts addressing what Dean said in "Conservatives without Conscience" -- and Glenn Greenwald's favorable review of the book.) Anyway, the above was a dramatic change, which removed from Wikipedia a long settled point which had been clearly established by the evidence, and substituted naked and false assertions by John Dean. The removal generated a huge debate among the Wiki editors: First, let me say, I'm a little disappointed that a referenced piece of material was removed just because John Dean did an article saying he never said that. I took that line directly from a copy of his deposition that I found when originally doing the revision. I can't find this copy now so I am not going to revert it's removal, I will try to locate this again and will post it here. As I've said, it's in his deposition, he denies he said that but hasn't provided any proof from the deposition as cited nor did he even mention in the article that his deposition was cited as the source. Instead he said he would "watch and wait" to see if it would be corrected. He also stated he can't correct it himself which is complete hogwash.This even degenerated into the Wiki editors accusing each other of partisanism, yet it involves a very simple issue:Actually, no, he said that while he could, he chose not to -- as his own little experiment on the reliability of on-line information. (And on that score, I think we did pretty well -- his article is datelined September 9, and before the day was out, a note had appeared on the Reference Desk and the edits to the article had begun.) --Steve Summit (talk) 18:10, 17 September 2005 (UTC)Whatever the case, I will locate the PDF I had on this, will provide it for others to review and look forward to seeing that passage returned to the article. Does deposition testimony count? If John Dean said what he said at his deposition, why can't that be relied on in a Wikipedia entry in support of the claim that he said that in his deposition? Dean can issue qualifications or explanations if he wants, but to remove any reference to sworn deposition testimony is in my opinion the height of dishonesty. What Dean said at his deposition has been commented upon numerous times, analyzed by historians, written up in newspaper and magazine articles, and unless I'd stumbled across the Wiki entry, it would never have occurred to me that Dean (or whoever is assisting him) would be so brazen as to attempt to remove references to a deposition. Once again, here's what Dean said under oath: WILLIAMS: [Quotes to Dean from his book "Blind Ambition"] "This was the worst blow since Magruder's call. I felt queasy. I really didn't want to know more because I had to assume that if Strachan knew, Haldeman knew, and if Haldeman knew, the President knew. It made sickening sense. Now I understand why Strachan had called earlier." Do you see that? There's video of a portion of the deposition here, and I am sure that an original certified copy of the deposition could be obtained somewhere, but I have to ask: Is this normal procedure for Wikipedia? Has anyone out there had any experience with things like this? Should I set up an account and edit the post myself, or would some pro-Dean activist just erase it, and make me have to put it back again and again? My understanding is that if that keeps happening, eventually the entry might be closed because of what they call "vandalism." Any insight or advice greatly appreciated. *For more background on Silent Coup (and the nature of the settlement) see below. ** John Dean's case against Liddy was dismissed by the court. How that "forced a settlement on Liddy," I'm not quite sure. MORE: Die-hard Watergate fans might enjoy this excerpt from Tom Clancy's "Eye of the Storm" video, which includes interviews with Ehrlichman and Liddy, as well as a portion of video from John Dean's deposition in which Dean makes the startling admission that he kept Ehrlichman in the dark about Strachan. UPDATE: Viewers who are having trouble might find this version easier to stream:
From the Wiki entry for Silent Coup (as of August 15, 2007): In 1992 John Dean began legal action against Len Colodny and Gordon Liddy. Dean objected to information that appeared in books by Liddy (Will) and Colodny (Silent Coup) that claimed that Dean was the mastermind of the Watergate burglaries and the true target of the break-in was to destroy information implicating him and his wife in a prostitution ring. That case was settled in 1999 when State Farm Insurance Company paid Colodny $410,000.00 to allow Dean to dismiss the case without going to summary judgment. Dean also had to agree not to sue Colodny again and that was in the Court Order.The above is so accurate that I'm surprised someone hasn't come along and changed it to reflect John Dean's narrative. Jim Hougan has more on the historical importance of this, and his own groundbreaking investigative work, which has not been refuted. posted by Eric on 08.15.07 at 04:15 PM
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Wiki is pretty good on simple physics and natural constants. M. Simon · August 15, 2007 07:29 PM And South Park episodes. Joe R. · August 16, 2007 12:21 AM You're pathetic. Your attempted character assassination of Dean is stictly partisan crap. Give it a rest. DavyChuck · August 16, 2007 01:51 PM "attempted character assassination of Dean?" I'd say he did a pretty good job of that himself. It probably won't persuade you, but I suggest watching A&E's "The Key To Watergate." http://www.nixonera.com/library/watergate.asp The issue that's been largely overlooked by historians is the purpose of the burglary, and it's obvious to me that John Dean was in it up to his neck, and tried to hide his role. Eric Scheie · August 16, 2007 02:31 PM Excellent essay, Eric. It's business as usual at Wikipedia. Nicholas Stix · August 18, 2007 05:29 AM Post a comment
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Always entertaining to look on at the political vandalism and cries of "gotcha!" on both sides--not.
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