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August 22, 2006
Twin "twofer" strategy?
This is interesting: Dario Ringach, an associate neurobiology professor at the University of California at Los Angeles, decided this month to give up his research on primates because of pressure put on him, his neighborhood, and his family by the UCLA Primate Freedom Project, which seeks to stop research that harms animals.Via Glenn Reynolds, who quite properly opines that "if people were doing this to animal-rights activists, it would be called fascism." I think that the tactic of threatening children (which I've posted about infra), while nothing new to animal rights activists, works as a "twofer." That's because it simultaneously accomplishes both of the following: The latter fires up the troops, and frightens everyone else. These observations are not new for me, and I'm sure others have made them too. But the reason I decided to write this post was that the other day I had the occasion to talk to a genetics researcher who works in the United States but who comes from another country, and closely follows what goes on in his field worldwide. He told me that the animal research work is constantly, relentlessly, being shifted to China. (You know... "Outsourcing.") In an amazing coincidence, the outsourcing of animal research to China is also a "twofer": So, as a result of the fascistic activist tactics, animal rights research is farmed out to a basically fascist country, where animals suffer more, and where the research can be conducted inexpensively without any real ethical limitations. While it was news to me to hear about the outsourcing of animal research, it occurs to me that the animal rights activists have to be savvy enough to know about it, so I have to assume it's all part of some "think-globally," grand international animal rights strategy. I mean, surely they're planning to travel to China and stage huge demonstrations, vandalize research facilities, and threaten the children of the Chinese researchers, right? Such idealism and bravery are touching. UPDATE: My thanks to Glenn Reynolds for linking this post! Welcome all. In an update, Glenn quotes Jim Bennett on China's own form of nihilism: ...in its own way China also upholds the principle that there is no ethical difference between human and animals.I think that's true, and it means the animal rights activists and the Chinese have more in common than might usually be believed. ADDITIONAL NOTE ON "OUTSOURCING": Please bear in mind that the word "outsourcing" was my choice of phraseology and not that of the researcher I spoke with. I'm neither an economist nor a scientific researcher, and I used the word pretty much the way I'd use it in casual conversation, but looking further this morning, I see that within this context it could very well be taken to imply a deliberate decision taken by American companies, whereas what the researcher described was more along the lines of the deliberate entry into the research market by the Chinese. Work done there, but not specifically for American companies, might not fit the formal definition of "outsourcing." Regarding scientific research, Wikipedia describes outsourcing thusly: This is treated as a niche sector in outsourcing. The research processes are outsourced in full or in parts. Whether it is research in nanotechnology or research in genetics, the process is viable for outsourcing. Generally larger research projects are cut into various sub projects or tasks. The outsourcing is then carried out based on the viability and competitiveness of the outsourcing destinations. Thus exploiting the competitiveness available at various parts of the world into a single large project. The research process outsourcing (RPO) is also known as Knowledge Process Outsourcing (KPO), as it calls for the application of specialized knowledge of a high level. The KPO typically involves a component of Analysis Proves Outsourcing (APO) and Research Process Outsourcing (RPO). General Electric is one of the pioneers in RPO.Again, I am not an economist, and I hope I didn't mangle the term. However, even though I am not a scientific researcher, what the scientist told me is confirmed by news reports like this: GLADYS Hammond was a kindly woman who lived in the English county of Staffordshire. When she died seven years ago, her family buried her in a quiet village churchyard, a fitting resting place for this elderly, unassuming woman. But then in October this year, her remains were dug up and stolen. Why?There's more, and I think it fits the definition of "outsourcing" -- to a "T." So maybe I was right in calling it that. Perhaps I shouldn't have been so quick to back away from my use of the word in the comment I left last night. (Should I retract my, um, "retraction"?) I also find it fascinating to read in that last article about desecration of the dead as yet another tactic in the animal rights arsenal. Considering that animal rights activists scream bloody murder (literally) when humans desecrate pigs, it's probably another argument from moralistic nihilism. posted by Eric on 08.22.06 at 04:42 PM
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Isn't it funny how far-left nuts always achieve exactly the opposite result of what they claim, whether on race equality, economic fairness, animal rights, creating peace and harmony in the world, winninng elections, taxation, crime reduction, public education, immigration, etc.? It is almost as though they exist as a creation of nature, to keep the rest of the world sharp and on their toes, in a continuous mode of fighting off these forces of spoilage on all levels of society. Twok · August 22, 2006 09:43 PM Isn't it funny how far-left nuts always achieve exactly the opposite result of what they claim , whether on race equality, economic fairness, animal rights, creating peace and harmony in the world, winninng elections, taxation, crime reduction, public education, immigration, etc.? It is almost as though they exist as a creation of nature, to keep the rest of the world sharp and on their toes, in a continuous mode of fighting off these forces of spoilage on all levels of society. Twok · August 22, 2006 09:44 PM Winged nuts generally can't fly. Whether that nut lean left or right. Moderate nut · August 22, 2006 09:52 PM I had the occasion to talk to a genetics researcher who works in the United States but who comes from another country, and closely follows what goes on in his field worldwide. He told me that the animal research work is constantly, relentlessly, being shifted to China. For what it's worth, I'm also a genetic researcher and have never heard of any outsourcing of animal work. If anything, that's the weak spot of countries like China and India because it's expensive so they haven't developed it the way they have other lines of research. And the safety studies that are where most large animal research is done are much too important for the FDA to trust results from some cheapo Chinese lab. It may (or may not) be true for the UK and Europe, though, as they have a much more severe animal-rights threat to deal with. JS · August 22, 2006 10:07 PM "Chinese researchers are meticulous and hard-working, and cost a fraction of their American counterparts." The second part is definitely true. As a person who has worked with many PRC organic chemists, this is a gross generalization. Some are, some aren't. Klug · August 22, 2006 11:14 PM "Outsourcing" was my word; not the researcher, and it might not be what this phenomenon should be called. (This is not my area, and I am only repeating what I was told.) In particular, the guy did speak of detailed work in China with rats, and he stated that their work were meticulous. (His area is stem cell research, but I don't want to use his name, or say where he's from without asking him.) Eric Scheie · August 22, 2006 11:49 PM Research shouldn't be conducted on animals, it should be done on "animal rights activists" instead. They are genetically closest to humans, thus most suitable. Petronius · August 23, 2006 06:51 AM I think it should be done on libertarians. That would satisfy moral constraints best: They have no soul. Moral minority · August 23, 2006 09:59 AM I think most libertarians would agree that they have no "soul." Certainly not in the singular, collectivist sense that the word implies. However, I don't see why the existence of a soul -- whether an individual or a collective one -- has any logical relationship with suitability for research. Assuming there is such a thing as a soul with eternal existence, how would that existence be affected one way or the other by what happened to the material body the soul once inhabited? Eric Scheie · August 23, 2006 10:45 AM Since I don't think any of us has a soul(human or animal) We should go ahead and do research on animals as well as deserving humans. Perhaps the animal rights activists should go ahead and outsource(that was the perfect word by the way) to the "animal rights activists" in China. Jim · August 24, 2006 12:09 PM |
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Sad, indeed. I understand the idea of drawing lines on this, for instance--
Not allowing experimentation to a certain degree like, for instance, the famed experiment wherein Russian scientists severed a dog's head, and kept it alive with a mechanical pump (for a short period of time.)
-- but disallowing any and all experimentation on animals, or simply intimidating those who do without regards to what they are doing... is disgusting. While I am against public funding of embryonic stem cell research, I'm not against stem cell research in general. And, also, anyway, its a flexible position which you wouldn't find me making death threats and bombs about.
Punks.