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June 03, 2005
Deep Throat -- a heavy non smoker
Rick Moran at RightWing Nuthouse has an excellent summary of the little-known Moorer-Radford affair. (Before Watergate, the military had been spying on Nixon, who called the ring "a federal offense of the highest order" when he found out about it, but eventually reliquished the matter to historical obscurity.) Excerpt from Rick: It just didn’t seem surprising that the JCS would have to spy on the executive in order to find out information they thought they were entitled to.There are many more details here (including transcripts and audio) for people who are interested. Bob Woodward's involvement with the same people who spied on Nixon should have raised many flags, but the guy's pedestal is built of composite material deriving strength from the many sources in the amalgam. Sigh. The problem with the Deep Throat saga is that it has served as a diversion. Instead of looking at the facts of Watergate (a burglary targeting the desk and phone of a particular secretary), people have obsessed for decades over the identity of a "single" (actually superfluous) source. I think that's the whole idea. UPDATE: In an odd coincidence, this report claims that Mark Felt conducted wiretaps on Radford without proper authorization. It's a small, spooky world out there.... MORE: Here's Edward Jay Epstein: Woodward never mentioned Deep Throat in any of the newspaper stories he wrote in the Washington Post between 1972 and 1974. In these stories he consistently attributes his information to multiple sources. Consider, for example, his (and Bernstein's) 1972 revelation that at least "50 people" who worked for the White House and the Nixon campaign were involved in spying and sabotage. In the Washington Post (October 10, 1972, p A1), he attributes the information to multiple "FBI reports." In 1974, in All The President's Men (p.135), he puts the exact same information in the mouth of Deep Throat, saying "You can safely say that 50 people worked for the White House and the CRP to play games and spy and sabotage and gather information."But who's handling the handlers? The clock is ticking. AND MORE: Also via Mickey Kaus, I found an interesting metaphor by David Greenberg -- who likens those who think Deep Throat was a composite to Holocaust deniers! (The wackos in denial include Henry Kissinger.... And if this story is correct, Mark Felt himself!) Holocaust denial? Gee. All these years I thought Watergate involved a burglary which had never been fully explained. MORE: Speaking of conspiracy theories, did Hunter Thompson beat Mark Felt to the punch? PSSST! And speaking of cool conspiracy theories, how about that John Paisley? CIA liaison to the Watergate plumbers, he was suspected of being a KGB mole. His 1978 death was ruled a suicide. (Strapping on weights and jumping in the water while shooting yourself in the head strikes me as an odd way to commit suicide, but I try not to be judgmental. Or conspiracy obsessed.) UPDATE (06/06/05): Via Daily Pundit, here's more on Radford from Jack Kelly: Woodward said he met Felt when, as a naval intelligence officer on the staff of Admiral Thomas Moorer, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, he "sometimes acted as a courier, taking documents to the White House."Meanwhile. Mark Felt was bugging Radford -- presumably while Woodward was working was working for Radford's boss. I'd love to know more about how Woodward and Felt became such fast friends! UPDATE (06/08/05): More evidence that Felt alone could not have been Deep Throat (which tends to confirm the composite theory): The FBI group, according to Daly, each brought snippets of information to the table. Felt, who was the bureau's second-in-command, would glean information from the others, and that was part of the reason FBI and White House efforts to find Deep Throat were thwarted. No one person could have known everything that Woodward and Bernstein were reporting, Daly and others have said.Not that Felt can answer questions about anything.... posted by Eric on 06.03.05 at 08:27 AM
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Actually "an ongoing campaign to defame and spy on Democrats," and "anti-democratic abuses of Presidential power" are lines from the national morality pageant, not crimes for which anyone was ever convicted. Or impeached. "Sad," "laughable," and "contrived paranoia?" All at the same time? (I should be glad to have moved up from "propagandistic logic.") At last someone has exposed me for the world to see! Eric Scheie · June 3, 2005 10:11 AM Oh, right - he wasn't impeached for it, therefore it never happened, or it wasn't an issue. Of course, that's not the "logic" you apply to (less damaging) alleged wrongdoing by Democrats, but hey, Democrats are all closet Stalinists, so we need a lower standard to judge their wrongs. Raging Bee · June 3, 2005 10:24 AM You said: The pedestal would be built of "many sources" - I thought you supported many sources. David Howe · June 3, 2005 10:54 AM Haldeman and Ehrlichman -- style, style, style, style! Steven Malcolm Anderson the Lesbian-worshipping man's-man-admiring myth-based egoist · June 3, 2005 11:57 AM |
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Bob Woodward's involvement with the same people who spied on Nixon should have raised many flags, but the guy's pedestal is built of composite material deriving strength from the many sources in the amalgam.
Ah yes, of course...Bob Woodward is part of a frightening shadowy conspiracy so powerful that he remains untouchable and unaccountable long after the people who helped or benefited from him are either dead or retired, and the party he hurt most is firmly back in control of the entire country.
Did it ever occur to you that "the guy's pedestal" is built on respect for his work in breaking a story about anti-democratic abuses of Presidential power?
(And no, Watergate wasn't just "a burglary targeting the desk and phone of a particular secretary" - it was part of an ongoing campaign to defame and spy on Democrats whose only threat to Nixon's reelection existed in Nixon's own small, fevered mind.)
Your contrived paranoia and victim-mentality is truly sad - and, at the same time, laughable.