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May 14, 2005
Just another thing that flagged my curiosity . . .
Is it more disrespectful to burn the Koran than the American flag? Worshippers in Pakistan poured on to the streets after prayers, chanting “Death to America”, and burning American flags. In Jakarta, hundreds gathered noisily at a mosque. Thousands marched through the streets of a Palestinian refugee camp in Gaza.The article is accompanied by this picture of an activity so common that these days it raises nary an eyebrow:
The Koran is a book of various assertions. Whether or not it contains the literal word of God is a religious dispute. It is certainly a symbol to many people -- at least as much of a symbol as a flag. I am not in favor of burning books, nor am I in favor of burning flags. But is burning one any worse than burning another? Bible burnings are not particularly in vogue these days, but considering the legality of flag burning as symbolic speech, there's no law I know of that would stop something like this: Another idea I had right after the election was to mount a campaign of Bible Burning. Remember a few years ago when the political establishment had to drop what it was doing to try to stop flag burning? For some reason this totally symbolic act by a tiny number of wingnuts drove the political establishment nuts. So I was thinking, if flag burning drives ‘em crazy, how about Bible burning? But I think this is probably not a great tactic for a few reasons: it’s scary and negative, evoking images of Nazi book burnings, it ignores the liberatory threads of some religious folks, and it only highlights what we’re against, not what we can be for. I do like it because it could be an insane diversionary tactic – wouldn’t it be great if church groups spent time banning bible burning instead of banning abortion? We need to be creative, but also be thoughtful and not allow our own fear and prejudices to lead us into our own intolerant actions. Intolerance is a far greater threat to the fringe than to the mainstream.In a similar vein, I also read that one Rev. Flip Benham sponsors Koran-burning events: Rev. Flip Benham is the Director of Operation Save America and Operation Rescue. Kneeling on the sidewalk, trying to stay out of the view of cops whose nod to order was insisting that people keep moving rather than completely blocking the walkway, he explained the mission. “This is the church in the street. Where faith becomes biography.”Is the test of what constitutes free speech simply to be one of how many people are upset? Another question: would the Times dare to display a picture of a Koran being burned at a demonstration? If I discovered demonstrators doing that and uploaded a picture of it to this blog, why would that be any different than what I just did by uploading the Times picture? I am at a loss to understand why. Another example of how logic fails. UPDATE: According to Little Green Footballs, there's no evidence to prove the allegations of Koran burning. That's the MSM for you folks! Getting people all stirred up for no good reason, and making me waste valuable blogtime! UPDATE (05/15/05): A Sunday headline in the Philadelphia Inquirer is referring to the unevidenced report as the "Koran case." Does that mean the case isn't closed? AND EVEN MORE (05/15/05 -- 9:16 pm): Newsweek now admits that the story was wrong: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newsweek magazine said on Sunday it erred in a May 9 report that U.S. interrogators desecrated the Koran at Guantanamo Bay, and apologized to the victims of deadly Muslim protests sparked by the article.That's nice. At least they apologized. Will the Inquirer will issue a correction too? As for those who died, their bad news is permanent. posted by Eric on 05.14.05 at 02:56 PM
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The report said that they had placed the Koran on the lavatory inside inmates’ cells and had “in at least one case, flushed a holy book down the toilet”. Flushed it down the toilet? Has it occurred to nobody just how ludicrous this idea is? Ever tried to flush a book down a toilet? Ed Minchau · May 15, 2005 03:55 AM I have flushed a few posts. The Internet's a toilet, right? Eric Scheie · May 15, 2005 11:20 AM would the Times dare to display a picture of a Koran being burned at a demonstration? burn one, take a picture and see Instafaggot · May 16, 2005 06:16 AM We should respond in kind to acts of burning the American flag by such religous bigots who have no concept of religous tolerance. For every American flag burned in protest, ten copies of the Koran must be burned. If they are so blinded by their religion, why should we tolerate such acts of hatred toward us? It is time for the PC gloves to come off, and defend ourselves before it is too late. James · May 17, 2005 12:28 PM I see a major backlash for this in the eyes of people in civilized nations, this shows how barbaric these people are, the sanctity of life means nothing, did you see outrage when our citizens were being beheaded, was there protests then, no. These are just idiots that need a means to vent there frustrations on the west. We all need to purchase a Koran and have a public burning, that Freedom of expression, we cannot damage the Koran but it's okay to burn our flag. What would happen if they saw on TV thousands of Korans being burned. Interesting. It would be worth the couple of bucks Steve · May 17, 2005 12:38 PM I see a major backlash for this in the eyes of people in civilized nations, this shows how barbaric these people are, the sanctity of life means nothing, did you see outrage when our citizens were being beheaded, was there protests then, no. These are just idiots that need a means to vent there frustrations on the west. We all need to purchase a Koran and have a public burning, that Freedom of expression, we cannot damage the Koran but it's okay to burn our flag. What would happen if they saw on TV thousands of Korans being burned. Interesting. It would be worth the couple of bucks Steve · May 17, 2005 12:38 PM Does this prove the old adage that the pen is mighter than the sword? bryan · May 17, 2005 03:58 PM I would love to burn a Nazi flag and a Communist flag while waving an American Flag (Old Glory). And, why is the Koran more sacred to the Establishment than the Bible, the Crucifix, the Mass, the Blessed Virgin (the Queen of Heaven) -- the Judao-Christian* tradition of America and the West? "You are reading a Crusader book" *"To be a good Pagan, you must be a good Christian**." [**in the opposite of the National Council sense of the word "Christian") Steven Malcolm Anderson the Lesbian-worshipping man's-man-admiring myth-based egoist · May 23, 2005 07:01 AM I considered burning the Koran over on my blog. Some don’t like the image of book burning and suggested a proper desecration would be with bacon fat or other appropriate pork product. In either case, showing our contempt with symbolic speech is an option. link: http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/2005/05/lets-burn-koran.html Jason Pappas · May 26, 2005 10:28 AM |
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Disrespect is in the eye of the beholder...if you consider it an affront to deface the flag then you allow yourself to be insulted by those who choose to burn it for that express purpose...Strategically it is a very stupid thing to do, to put that much emotion into a piece of cloth...or a book for that matter.
Read more about the srategic weaknesses of symbols and allegiances on my blog.
I think I will add this concept to that theme in a new post - thanks for the inspiration!
http://www.barrell.com/blog/archives/2005/04/symbols_and_ell.html
http://www.barrell.com/blog/archives/2005/05/pledge_redux.html
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