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December 01, 2004
Baby goose steps?
My earlier post on Canada geese reminded me of the importance of environmental issues in the last election. According to this survey: 24% of respondants considered the environment as an "extremely important" issue (compared to 53% rating terrorism, the top spot, as "extremely important").24% might not seem all that high a figure (and obviously it isn't as important as terrorism), but does anyone remember the huge fuss over "moral values" as the most important issue? I'd almost forgotten about the other issues, so I returned to the CNN poll to see how the environment fared on the list. Well I'll be horn-swaggled! Here, once again, are the topics in the CNN poll, folks: Taxes (5%)The environment isn't there. And why not? What would you have told the CNN pollsters if you were an environmental activist? The environment certainly isn't taxes, Iraq, education, terrorism, jobs, or health care, so I guess you'd be stuck with "moral values." Hmmmm...... I'm getting confused. Considering that there are at least two cabinet level departments dedicated to environmental issues, that environmental regulations affect nearly every large company in the United States, and that international treaties are the subject of much debate, why didn't the environment at least show up as a issue? Maybe it is one of the "moral values" after all. Here's an environmental activist who sees abortion not only as an environmental issue, but as a profoundly moral issue: We must begin to directly address the true moral implications of abortion, which are these:Seen this way, abortion is not merely something to be tolerated, nor is it a woman's right control her own body, and not even the privacy right enshrined in Roe v. Wade. It is a positive good, because people are bad, so ridding the world of people is good. But if abortion is a moral good because there are too many people, then why expend money and manpower to save oiled geese if there are already too many of them? I suspect that what's good for the goose is a moral lesson for the goslings. Utilitarian arguments are for adults. There's an ostensible audience out there who are seen as in need of moral values. And like it or not, oiled geese beat dead fetuses! Don't ask me why; the manipulation of the human mind is something I abhor as much as groupthink. Watching the process is bad enough. MORE RELIGION: Who's "in charge" of the Delaware River? Today I read there's actually someone with the title of "Riverkeeper" -- one Maya K. van Rossum. Among other things, she's opposed the Delaware Deepening project. (Deepening the river might well have prevented the recent spill -- a point highlighted by new post-spill restrictions on vessels at low tide). But whatever anyone might say about her, she's a true believer: The Delaware Riverkeeper is not an elected official.For shame! Every damned one of you evil drivers is to blame! (SUV drivers are of course the most evil of all, and hence, must be singled out for special treatment.) Don't get me started on home heating oil! That's even more evil than SUVs! posted by Eric on 12.01.04 at 04:10 PM
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I'm biased, being a human, not a goose. Not-that-there-is-anything-wrong-with-geese and those who prefer them, but geese, frankly, do nothing for me. So in my biased way I say, "go humans." And geese -- eh! This reminds me of an area of our local zoo which has "tombstones" for every animal ever extinct and then a little mirror saying "You're looking at the only animal who can cause another species to become extinct." Cute, and I bet they're proud of themselves but strangely inaccurate. As for the "too many humans on the Earth" that is, as we know, a canard. (Which brings up the goose question again. Thank you folks. I'll be here all week.) This said, I'm all for space. Diversifying one's environment is a species' best chance at survival and I want humans to survive. Therefore, space makes sense. "Go humans! Go space exploration!" Someone bring me ponpons or something. Portia · December 1, 2004 07:28 PM "Don't ask me why; the manipulation of the human mind is something I abhor as much as groupthink. Watching the process is bad enough." - Eric I don't get it either. For example, why do we suddenly think to argue that women speak for what the Earth "want"s? I've never heard that one before. But then I hadn't heard of talking vaginas before, either - The Vagina Monologues - which spoke some kind of [no doubt] nuanced truths which women's mouths could not, unless channelling vaginas. There's apparently no end to any of it, as noted by Bob Dylan in "Idiot Wind" - "blowing like a circle around my skull, from the Grand Coulee Dam to the Capitol", etc.. Needless to say, I have no answers to these tendencies, and only hope that someone will inform me of my own suspect thinking, or put me out of my misery when appropriate, rather than killing someone else, as reccommended by Mother Earth. J. Peden · December 1, 2004 07:55 PM Space: to highest heights!.... Steven Malcolm Anderson (Cato theElder) the Lesbian-worshipping man's-man-admiring myth-based egoist · December 1, 2004 11:21 PM That argument you quoted could easily be an argument for making abortion compulsory. I'm against that. Steven Malcolm Anderson (Cato theElder) the Lesbian-worshipping man's-man-admiring myth-based egoist · December 2, 2004 08:36 PM |
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I won't swear to this, but I *think* the reason that oiled geese are more important than human life in this rationale is that the proportions are out of whack, i.e. too many humans and not enough geese.
To which I reply, That's why we want to have space travel, bucko. (And I really really get annoyed by people who use the argument "but we should spend the money towards x cause instead" against space exploration. I think we have a better chance of stopping poverty by driving onward and upward than by trying to pour what resources we have down a hole. The only two unlimited resources are human hope and drive.)