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April 05, 2004
A moving target is tough to hit!
And a simple apology would be much easier to find. I am having a great deal of trouble keeping up with the ins and outs of the Daily Kos fallout. For those who are still unaware of one of the biggest blogscandals so far (I hesitate to call it "Kosgate" -- although others have) Glenn Reynolds, is, as always, a good starting and ending point. What bothers me at least as much as the heinous nature of Mr. Zuniga's remarks is that I thought blogging was supposed to be honest. Perhaps my naiveté as a First Year Blogger is showing; I mean "honest" in the sense of not editing or deleting posts in the same way politicians engage in "damage control." But I guess Zuniga is a politician. He's certainly behaving that way. And if he ever runs for office he can rest assured that this will haunt him forever. For the life of me, though, I have been unable to keep track of the twists and turns of the elusive post. Here was the post: Someone had to save it, because according to reliable bloggers, it was yanked from Google! Here's what the same post morphed into after the storm of criticism [NOTE: Now the follow-up/replacement post is here, and the google cache is here.]: I wrote in some diary comments somewhere that "I felt nothing" and "screw them".Putting aside for the moment whether growing up in a war zone (or serving in the United States military, as his picture proudly proclaims) bestows immunity from criticism, for four days I only wanted to know WHAT HAPPENED TO THE POST? But, before I could sort this out, now I see it's back "on the front page" figuratively -- where it was supposed to be originally. I guess Zuniga decided to leave it [er, "put it back"?] and take his lumps after all: Every death should be on the front page (2.65 / 35) Now you see it, now you don't! What bothered me (and what might be a bigger scandal than a blogger trying to lie his way out of a spot): Did this guy get Google to do his bidding? Did he threaten to sue them? Does he know someone there? Or can any blogger do this? And what about the advertising issue? Bill Quick offers some thoughts which strike a chord with me: We cannot be divorced from the opinions we express. We don't get a "free zone" because we are bloggers. Not in the real world. Not in the grown-up world.I left a comment, because it bothers me that despite his regular attacks on those he sees as "privileged," Kos is himself very privileged. He not only seems to feel he has earned the privilege to make any remark he chooses, then delete them at will and lie about it, but he's (apparently) privileged enough to issue edicts to or manipulate Google with impunity! As I said in my comment, Bill Quick touched on an important issue, and that's blogger accountability: I know that my criticism of Leon Kass and my disagreements with Republicans (generally similar to yours) would prevent me from getting any bigtime Republican ads. The reason is that they wouldn't want to face outraged moral conservatives in their own party.Nevertheless, Kerry or anyone else has a right to advertise at the Daily Kos. They might want to consider the consequences, because what Zuniga said was so out of line as to be beyond the pale for anyone except the lunatic fringes of the left. But the Google issue just sticks in my craw. It won't go away. I thought there was still some integrity in at least the mechanical nature of the Internet. I guess I was wrong. Who the hell does Google think they are allowing people to delete stuff from their cache? The New York Times? And I am also bothered by the fact that after Kos jumped to Number One position in TTLB, he dared to complain of brutal mistreatment by Glenn Reynolds: So I said something pretty stupid last week. I served up the wingnuts a big, juicy softball. They went into a tizzy, led by Instapundit.I don't know about what "they" can throw at him, but all I can do is express my disgust and disappointment. You'd think Kos could do what any decent person would do. (After all, even the pro-Islamist CAIR decried the mutilations.) Simply apologize. (To the families of these human beings.) But he won't. So screw him. UPDATE: Was I too harsh in saying "screw him" about Mr. Zuniga? Here's my deal: I'll apologize if and when he apologizes to the families of the victims. And to Senator Kerry! (Via Who Tends the Fires.) posted by Eric on 04.05.04 at 03:03 PM
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Welcome blogfather Jeff! Kos seems to be working now, but another link changed so I found the new one and Google-cached it above. Funny you'd bring up Kim; I apologized too in my own way, and I think everyone moved on (forgive that expression.....). All of us occasionally say things we regret, and an apology just seems like common sense. Certainly better than lying and "damage control." Kos's behavior reminds me of Trent Lott -- but then, even Lott offered an apology. Jeff, you forgot to plug Tarazet -- (Jeff's cool new blog for pets). All who read this comment are ordered to GO. THERE. NOW. Eric Scheie · April 6, 2004 01:30 AM "I am having a great deal of trouble keeping up with the ins and outs of the Daily Kos fallout." - Eric Hi Eric. I'm generally kinda loathe to link my own blog in someone's comments, I tend to not, but since you said you were looking: I have a couple of roundups of various blogosphere fallout from that, some that even Glenn missed. I looked for primarily what the Left was saying on it, because I was curious, so the linkfests reflect that. Tazret? A must red? Kewl - on my way. ;] Ironbear · April 6, 2004 08:53 PM Oopss... that'll teach me to read ALL the way to the bottom before hitting the comment link. ;) I see you'd been there already. Doh! Sorry. Obviously not nearly enough blood-caffiene level today. ;] Ironbear · April 6, 2004 08:58 PM Did this guy get Google to do his bidding? Did he threaten to sue them? Does he know someone there? Or can any blogger do this? My understanding is that Google will remove their cached copy of any web page on request from the website's owner. (Which makes sense, when you think about it - it's a copy of the website owner's content.) Obviously this can be used ethically or unethically, e.g. to toss something down the memory hole when it becomes controversial. But as far as I know, Google just carried out its overall policy, and did not give Kos any special privileges. jaed · April 8, 2004 02:42 PM Thanks for the useful info, Jaed. I didn't know that when I saved a Google cache, I might be saving nothing. Perhaps there's a way of REALLY getting a snapshot -- something irrevocable. I need to look into that one of these months.... Ironbear, you can come here and link whatever you want, whenever you want! And please do! Eric Scheie · April 9, 2004 12:28 AM |
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Unless my browsers are on the fritz, it seems that Kos has "turned off" his blog completely. I just get white pages. If that's the case, then I guess he's simply taken his ball and gone home.
Me? I've turned both my blogs into "tip-free" and "ad-free" zones. Now I don't have to answer or please anyone...
You know, after my ill-thought-out comments on Kim, I did in my way apologize on my blog and even made another post admitting the same.
Kos should have done the same instead of circling the wagons and pretending it never happened.