Multiple Shooters?

The video is an acoustic analysis of the shooting.

The person giving this talk mentions that multiple shooters were reported by the police early on in the incident. There were shots fired at several hotels reported before the main event. All that is gone from the police after action reports you see on the “news”. The discussion of multiple shooters starts about 21:40 into the video.


( About 30 minutes)

 
 
This video gives a sense of the scene in Las Vegas. He discusses helicopter noises and the possibility of shooting from the helicopter. Take the numerology at the end of the video with a grain of salt.

(About 7 minutes if you count the ads)

 
 
This feller discusses YouTube censorship of videos relating to the events. He also notes the “13” on Paddock’s neck. He also looks at the possibility of the picture being photo shopped. He is an experienced photo shop guy. The rant at the end is a little left for my taste, but it is a nice touch.

( About 11 1/2 minutes )

 
 
The bump-stock is explained by a very experienced combat shooter. They are not well suited for consistent rates of fire or aim. Plus. Your shoulder is going to hurt after a thousand or two rounds. Maybe that is why Paddock was a suicide. His shoulder really hurt.

The gun guy thinks that the only thing that makes sense is for Paddock to have been a gun runner. There are lots of interesting side topics in the video. Like what a shot out door would look like. (nothing like what was shown in the pictures)


( About 14 minutes )

 
 
Another audio analysis.

( About 20 minutes )

 
 
Some things don’t add up.

The arsenal: Paddock put a substantial amount of thought and planning into the position of his perch as well as a potential escape. He had the knowledge and experience to calculate accurate shots from an elevated position at distance. But, for some reason the 64-year-old-man decided it was warranted to drag at least 23 guns and hundreds of pounds of ammunition in ten separate suitcases to his room at the Mandalay Bay. A person with the intelligence displayed in the planning of this event would know that most of these rifles were not needed in the slightest to achieve the effect desired. They are dead weight, and moving them into the Mandalay only presented unnecessary risk of discovery. Unless, of course, the original plan involved multiple shooters.

If he was a gun runner, shooting up Las Vegas, would not have been a part of his original plan. The point about his lugging up way more “tools” than he needed is valid in any case. Odd for some one supposedly so adept in planning the massacre.

We will need a Warren Commission to sort all this out.

And just to make things more interesting, Jesus Campos who was shot before (after, during) the massacre has disappeared. He was going to talk to at least 5 news organizations.


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10 responses to “Multiple Shooters?”

  1. Man Mountain Molehill Avatar
    Man Mountain Molehill

    I still think you should read this before going overboard with the conspiracy theories.
    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/10/15/vegas-weekend-roundup-insanity/

  2. Simon Avatar

    MMM,

    OK. He wasn’t gun running. He just wanted to die with his weapons. Weapons that no one recalls him practicing with.

    I have no answers (for sure) but I do have a lot of questions.

  3. Simon Avatar

    BTW MMM your link makes a very good argument that Paddock was unqualified to accomplish what he did. I agree with that.

    Unfortunately that makes an argument for other shooters.

    A comment I left there:

    I agree with the general trend of the article. Paddock was unqualified to accomplish what he is alleged to have done.

  4. Man Mountain Molehill Avatar
    Man Mountain Molehill

    He had a car full of explosives and he apparently expected to die. Why didn’t he drive into the crowd and kaboom? If he wanted a mass killing makes much more sense.

    Lots of guns which he wouldn’t have time to use, and that were all inappropriate for his intended shooting. I mean, wtf?

  5. Man Mountain Molehill Avatar
    Man Mountain Molehill

    about the shooting from the crowd, if it’s not an echo, how about somebody with a concealed weapon shooting back?

  6. Kathy Kinsley Avatar
    Kathy Kinsley

    This just gets weirder and weirder.

    There are a couple of conspiracy types that are claiming that the whole Harvey thing is to remove media attention from the massacre. I’m almost tempted to believe them.

  7. agimarc Avatar

    I wonder how much of the multiple noises were echoes or shock wave of the rounds in flight.

    If you ever get to share a gunnery range with an A-10 strafe, for every burst squeezed off you will hear 3 bursts. In order, the shock wave from the rounds in flight closely followed by the sound of the rounds impacting the target and the rounds coming out of the muzzle. Depending on your location, the arrival of the brraap noise of the second and third sounds will change places. If you are closer to the jet, you hear that second. If you are closer to the target, you hear that second. Try real hard not be on or be the target. Cheers –

  8. captain*arizona Avatar
    captain*arizona

    they are still saying conspiracy about the kennady assignation 64 years ago! where ever you can make a buck right!

  9. TomA Avatar
    TomA

    The only way to avoid eternal conspiracy theory activism is for the FBI to be more transparent, factual, and forthcoming about their investigative findings. That they are doing the exact opposite of that is prima facia evidence that what they are hiding is likely much worse than the current conspiracy rumors. Corruption in the FBI is much more damaging to the nation than the death toll in the Las Vegas massacre.