I’m A Fan Of Traditional Marriage

Outlaw Divorce. Well Jesus was against it.

Prompted by Glenn Beck. I note Glenn divorced his first wife and after finding Jesus (I was under the impression that he was no longer available to be found – escaped from the tomb etc.) did not remarry his first wife but got another one.

As far as civil law goes I’d allow any one of age who wants to marry to do so.


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21 responses to “I’m A Fan Of Traditional Marriage”

  1. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    …did not remarry his first wife but got another one.

    That’s Ok because he’s now a Mormon. Was a time when all Mormon men got another one, and then another one… Part of their heritage.

    Also, you shouldn’t attack Glenn Beck’s views for any reason. He’s had all these problems like alcoholism, drug addiction, family suicides, creeping blindness, even schizophrenia. The victim card overfloweth. You have to respect a man who can turn all of life’s hits into cold, hard cash while preaching Christian salvation.

  2. Sigivald Avatar
    Sigivald

    Occasionally people on Facebook paste the memes comparing Horrible Celebrity Marriages And Remarriages to Gay Marriage, and ask why The Traditional Marriage People are opposing gay marriage …

    Then I remind them that the Traditional Marriage People also really dislike 48 hour pseudo-marriages and serial divorce.

    (It’s absolutely fine to disagree with them, but it’s useful to actually be familiar with their platform first, so you can disagree with it effectively…)

  3. Simon Avatar

    Sigvald,

    When I bring up divorce in the context of an anti-gay marriage post I get silence. And not just here. Anywhere it is being discussed. Maybe I’m not bringing it up in the right places.

    Divorce is doing far more damage to our civilization than gay marriage ever could.

    I wouldn’t restrict divorce or marriage.

  4. captain* arizona Avatar
    captain* arizona

    The bible says we should stone adulters and homosexuals! Now there is some classical values for you!

  5. Neil Avatar
    Neil

    That’s OK. Simon believes in adulterers and homosexuals getting stoned, too.

  6. Clayton E. Cramer Avatar

    Divorce is certainly doing more damage than gay marriage, but that’s rather like saying that drunkenness does more damage than meth intoxication, so we might as well make meth legal, too.

  7. Clayton E. Cramer Avatar

    “As far as civil law goes I’d allow any one of age who wants to marry to do so.”

    So Yemeni style marriages where 40 year olds marry 9 year olds aren’t a problem? And men marry their daughters?

  8. captain* arizona Avatar
    captain* arizona

    Hey cramer don’t you believe in classical values?

  9. Simon Avatar

    Clayton,

    Long time.

    any one of age

    Are 9 year olds of age in Yemen?

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    My point is that if anything needs doing about marriage it is divorce that need the attention. Gay marriage is a magicians trick. “Look – over there. I see bright and shiny.”

    No fault divorce was the worst idea ever when it comes to marriage laws.

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    Your attitude is more akin to: “I scratched my toe and cut a femoral artery. Let me attend to the toe first.”

    In hetero marriages there are often children involved. In gay marriages – rarely. Now fold in the disparity in numbers

    Are you saying there are no priorities in the matter?

  10. captain* arizona Avatar
    captain* arizona

    Hey cramer If you knew why marrige started and the reason for it you would see what a joke classical values are! Start with why the catholic church ordered their priest to be celebet and work your way back 10,000 years to see why the those in power came up with marrige. Hint hunter gathers didn’t need it!

  11. Simon Avatar

    crapzone,

    you would see what a joke classical values are!

    I see you are not in on the joke.

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    As to the purpose of marriage it is manifold.

    1. Assure the continuity of resources for children.

    2. Increase productivity

    3. Reduce the incidence of internecine warfare

    Feminism is the effort to short circuit all that for grrl power. It will end badly. A counter revolution is already underway.

    Socialism is the attempt to replace the man with the state.

    It is coming to an end:

    http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/10/02/obligations-to-women-then-and-now/

    http://therationalmale.com/2013/11/25/nursing-power/

    http://www.returnofkings.com/17995/dont-work-for-a-female-boss

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  13. captain* arizona Avatar
    captain* arizona

    simon I didn’t ask for something you made up or pulled out of your …! Thoose reasons are not why the catholic church orderd priest not to marry nor why marrage originated it was for none of those reasons! Look it up.

  14. Simon Avatar

    Crapzone,

    You look it up. I’m busy.

  15. Simon Avatar

    crapzone,

    What ever you think about marriage, families, children, etc. Socialism is not sustainable without people to tax.

    All those men dropping out (going Galt) will collapse the system.

  16. captain* arizona Avatar
    captain* arizona

    simon If you don’t like the history of something thats your problem not mine if your to busy to find out the truth and wish to remain ignorant! I grew up ignorant southern white trash ;but I educated myself now I am just southern white trash I removed the ignorant part!

  17. Simon Avatar

    cap,

    What ever you think about the Catholic Church – I’m no fan myself – socialism is unsustainable.

    The key is – the incentives are wrong. It does not align with human nature. You can read more about it here:

    http://classicalvalues.com/2013/11/nature-men-and-women/

  18. captain* arizona Avatar
    captain* arizona

    Simon catholic church is an example you have to go back to farming communities and the rise of power structures(its called structuralism) to find out why marriage was invented for a purpose!

  19. Simon Avatar

    cap,

    The purpose of marriage is to limit female hypergamy. It gives betas a chance at sex and makes them more productive. It predates the Catholic Church.

  20. captain* arizona Avatar
    captain* arizona

    Wrong again marriage was invented to distribute property(land) and slightly later for political alliances and the poor simily imitatede the political ceremonies! Catholic church banned priests from marrying so church and not priest’s children would get their land!

  21. Simon Avatar

    Well I wouldn’t leave out all the other factors. Paternity being an important one. Which leads back to female hypergamy.

    Property is only important to women as a resource for children. It is important to men as an attractant to women (or in the old rules – their families).

    And why would the lower classes practice something that had no value to them? So one must look deeper into the questions of value.